High School DxD CENSORED???



  • alright.let accept it . we all like issei and his attitude , but we also like his mischief!!!i was gonna subscribe specially to watch it but then my cousin told me that they have censored season 3 ….common really? wouldn't it be a mess, and yes im not sure about it so i would really appreciate if u inform me about they have censored it or not?



  • Season 1 and season 2 were both censored during their simulcast. Season 3 is no different

    The uncensored version will release here when the physical release approaches, about 15 months from now



  • Nudity is always censored during the simulcasts. The home video releases are uncensored.



  • don't act like you aren't going to watch again anyway when you can see the boobies



  • you are right. im gonna subscribe anyway.



  • @Riles:

    Season 1 and season 2 were both censored during their simulcast. Season 3 is no different

    The uncensored version will release here when the physical release approaches, about 15 months from now

    awe man :/ that's annoying. guess i'll just wait till it comes out to watch



  • haha i just subscribed today specifically watch highschool DXD born and then bam! all these censors! I was like well maybe its just a dream sequence thing but nope he woke up and those Ds were still there. this forum did help me out in understanding that stimulcasts are censored =)



  • thanks guys helped me too so 15 months is that the whole season release or what?



  • HS DxD is so awesome i am totally in love with Rias and Akeno. I was so excited to find season 3 was being shown. The nudity in this show is tasteful and really the girls drawn so beautifully was one of the things that made the first two seasons awesome. I don't watch anime just for fan service but for this show it really was a big part of why its so well done and awesome. The annoying symbols over the girls breasts (is that not one of the main things that defined the main character?) really ruins this season. It's frankly quite ugly and patronizing. I am so let down. When will people grow up and realize its no big deal and nudity is natural. Of course its not for youngsters anyway so why deny the full art to adults. Its not fair to those who want to support anime, and I wish the industry in Japan and America would grow up and give us a little credit. You would think the anime industry would just grow up and ditch the sexual repression baggage. I will buy the uncensored version when available but if the industry is gonna censor shows they are just creating a piracy problem which is their own fault. So if the industry is gonna decide for me that I can't handle nudity and destroy such a great artwork, they deserve all the piracy that results, if you want people to support anime stop driving them to illegal sites just so they can watch it as it should be presented, then stop forcing outdated concepts such as female nudity is somehow bad and not a natural source of beauty. You would think that the advanced art form that is anime would be way past such nonsense. Censorship is wrong, depictions of beautiful females is not.



  • @ravaen:

    The nudity in this show is tasteful

    !



  • Riles-san I understand your original post about how it was done for the first two seasons as well. But does it really have to be that way in this day and age? BTW I don't get how the image you posted fits into the picture. :-)



  • @ravaen:

    Riles-san I understand your original post about how it was done for the first two seasons as well. But does it really have to be that way in this day and age? BTW I don't get how the image you posted fits into the picture. :-)

    It does have to be that way in this day and age because children still exist in this day and age

    My picture was in reference to tasteful nudity because the show has a lot of nudity that is not tasteful in the slightest. There are many, many, many strange and distasteful angles. There's a whole episode about a slime monster that eats clothes, and that's not even an OVA



  • Riles-san You are correct that there are some scenes depicting things that children should not see. But parents also exist in this day and age and they are responsible to monitor their kids activities. I do not think this anime is appropriate for kids and I agree with you about some of the shot s and such. But overall the art style is very nice and and well done and its a good story. I am not trying to defend fan service for its own sake and there is prolly more of it in our anime that we really need. Certainly there are anime where nudity and such is simply just the whole point. I don't think DxD is like that. Another legal site we all know and love has a mature content filter and I think this site could benefit from parental controls. I do not disagree with your viewpoint. So do not misunderstand. Perhaps my use of the word tasteful was not exactly what I meant to imply. The art is just well done and pretty. Although I do not see anything wrong with nudity especially in a show where its used more for humor than anything else. Something like Maken-ki, for example is a show which seems only to exist to show as much T&A as if that were the entire point. I don't think DxD is like that. In DxD Rias really is a lovely looking person clothed or not. Children can and should be protected from things that is why parents exist. but if all art were made so it could be acceptable to be viewed by children then much good art would be lost. I personally am neutral on if an anime has nudity as long as it stays within certain bounds and it makes sense in the context of the story which in DxDs case I think it is. I do not approve of anything like hentai or pornography. I just believe the human body is not evil or bad and that censorship is very bad. I understand your viewpoint and it is valid. So please do not misunderstand. Instead of tasteful perhaps I should have said well made artwork. Although just in and of itself nudity can be tasteful. I don't understand why people freak out over a depiction of a beautiful character who happens to be nude when all sorts of awful violence and such seems to just be OK with everyone. To sum up yes DxD has risque moments … but when we allow censorship , creativity is suppressed and we lose just a little bit more of our freedom of expression everytime it happens all through history. Children should be protected and the tools to allow us to do that are what we need ... not censorship. So all I'm really saying is I don't think people need to be ashamed of something natural like nudity, I agree that pornographic content lowers us all -- men and women both, so I don't approve of it. But censorship is the death of expression. I hope you can perhaps see my point of view even if it does not match yours exactly. I respect your viewpoint. I just think the solution can be had without ruining the creative work. I really hope I have not offended you with my post. You are obviously and good person. And on a lighter note Rias really is a well drawn beautiful if impossibly idealized version of one kind of beauty.



  • I think you misunderstand me

    This show is on cable television in Japan. Kids watch television in Japan. It's not appropriate for uncensored content to be shown on TV in Japan. Thus, the only uncensored versions available during broadcast are on premium satellite channels, such as AT-X

    FUNimation doesn't have the rights to these masters that are available on premium satellite channels, for whatever reason. They end up replacing the censored videos with the uncensored home release versions when they have the rights to the home release masters, so it's evident enough that they aren't giving you a censored version simply to protect the children. I'm sure they'd really like to give you the uncensored version because they know that's what you want to watch! But they can't because they don't have the rights to those masters

    It's not worth asking why the censored version isn't available immediately because providing an open stream with the licensing department isn't exactly in the best interests of any company, due to the delicacy needed in working with third parties. There's a reason why we don't see the uncensored version for simulcasts, but we likely won't ever know that reason because there's no point for FUNimation to throw their partners under the bus. The closest explanation we've received is that this is the version that is shown on cable television, so this is the version that FUNimation airs as well. That's really all there is to it! It's how Japan does it, so it's how we receive it

    Understand that only a very small slice of viewers actually have access to the uncensored version in Japan. Only those that pay premium money for the premium channels get to legally watch it uncensored. Statistically speaking, you're not missing out on anything more than the average Japanese viewer is missing out on. Put another way, it's not like this other "legal site we all know and love" is broadcasting mature content that's ordinarily only available on some premium satellite TV station. They get the version that broadcast on cable TV, same as Funimation gets on broadcast TV from Japan. It's just that America has different/softer guidelines on what can be broadcast at certain hours. Again, this isn't anyone's fault in particular, it's just a cultural thing

    I get what you're saying, that the fanservice in DxD is a lot more poignant and holds more weight than your traditional upskirt harem. It just struck me as funny when you described it as tasteful, since a lot of it is anything but

    Please don't call me Riles-san. This is North America and we don't use honorifics



  • Thank you for the detailed explanation of how the politics of all this works. You obviously have much knowledge of how these things work behind the scenes. I understand and it makes more sense to me now. Although it should be as simple as showing the censored versions on TV and (because it exists in uncensored form already) just allow the real version to be distributed where it can be shown without fear of harming anyone's sensibilities. But as you said its politics and Japan, I know very well ,is most concerned about proper ways of doing things. I did not know how complex these things really were so thank you for explaining it to me. I am a huge anime fan and it makes me happy from day to day. (I get emotional even sometimes watching heart warming shows like Mushi-shi lol). So I get it. I guess some things just can not be dealt with as easily as we would often like. My apologies for misunderstanding and thank you again for your explanation. Deep down I still feel strongly about censorship but we do not live in a perfect world. Your last post makes perfect sense. It is a shame however children can be shown violence but not simple nudity, I have never understood that. There is much I do not understand about America in particular. But thanks to you I have learned something tonight. Again, I apologize for misunderstanding and I have enjoyed this discussion very much. Keep in mind that perhaps what is tasteful to one person may not be so to another. I do think the rendering of the characters is done tastefully to be honest but then again everything is relative.
    On another note:
    I hope you are not offended by my thanking you for this dialog we have had or for apologizing for misunderstanding you initially. I have no way of knowing, seeing as you seem to be offended by my use of the proper honorific. I live in America but my parents are both Japanese who moved to America, I was born in Japan but was a young when they came here. I am planning to move to Japan back to my real home in about a year from now. Honorifics are a sign of respect but in North American people don't seem to know or care anything about that. Thus I will not use your name at all because I was taught never to disrespect myself or another person I have just encountered by taking such liberties without gaining the honor of being granted that privilege. I don't care where in the world I happen to be. I will not act in such a horrible disrespectful manner for my own sake. It is probably of no great concern to you but if the occasion ever arises such as a post like this I will ask the same of you please refer to me as Ravaen-san. Please don't call me Ravaen because I do not know you at all. I do not enjoy such an insult. You said we don't use honorifics in North America. OK if that is your culture don't concern yourself with respectful ways. Who says that just because I am in America that gives me an excuse to be so rude. If my attempt at respect offended you well what can I say. Beyond that I as I said I found our exchange of ideas interesting. Feel free to respond to my posts in the future if you wish as I bear you no ill will because of the whole we don't use honorifics in my country thing. I am here my family is here. If you ever visit my country Japan, nobody will tell you you must use honorifics. They won't speak with you at all in that case.

    Ravaen-san



  • @ravaen:

    Honorifics are a sign of respect but in North American people don't seem to know or care anything about that. Thus I will not use your name at all because I was taught never to disrespect myself or another person I have just encountered by taking such liberties without gaining the honor of being granted that privilege. I don't care where in the world I happen to be. I will not act in such a horrible disrespectful manner for my own sake.

    You should probably care. Acting with your personal beliefs while in different cultures can be disrespectful and dangerous if you're not careful. Adding honorifics to the end of names isn't disrespectful here in America, but it'll certainly open the door to ridicule

    Think of it this way. If I went to Japan and insisted that I don't use honorifics because I want to stay true to my culture and want to be friendly with everyone, a lot of people would not like me! There's a certain set of cultural rules I need to follow no matter which culture I'm in, and it can be very disrespectful of me to insist that I continue using my own cultural mannerisms

    Every region has different cultures and customs. When you travel to a different country, it's always best to understand the proper etiquette when eating meals, because some things you naturally do in your own culture may end up being wildly offensive in another culture. It doesn't make much sense to preserve your own culture in cases like that

    My point is that adding honorifics to the ends of names in America (and any English-speaking region) is essentially meaningless. It's weird here! Obviously it wouldn't be weird in Japan, but it's weird here! It's not offensive, it's just highly unusual and makes you stick out like a sore thumb. Not adding honorifics is not rude here, so on these forums (and Americans in general), you're being rude to nobody. We're all equals here! We're just people who like anime

    Also, I said you could drop the honorific, and you decided that you would stop naming me entirely. That response, to me, is far more offensive than adding or removing an honorific. Thankfully I'm not someone that gets offended by much of anything, but it might be good for you to better understand the differences in conversation between strangers, friends, and family here in the States. Otherwise, you might accidentally come across someone one day that is easily offended, and that might be a much more unpleasant situation

    @ravaen:

    It is a shame however children can be shown violence but not simple nudity,

    This is definitely one example of a cultural difference. The United States was founded on extremely puritan beliefs, which means we tend to look down upon sexual content. At the same time, we were also founded on various ideas that gave every citizen the right to arm ourselves with weapons, because that was thought to be necessary for our independence. This, naturally, caused us to become somewhat desensitized to violence

    Nudity is generally not tolerated here because our original puritan beliefs saw it as the lowest common denominator. Violence is much more tolerated because our country loves to romanticize the thought of war, which has eventually ramped up the unique and spectacular ways people can lose their life. The culture simply grew up differently

    There are a lot - a LOT - of cultural differences in the world. Like I said, I would really recommend studying all forms of etiquette in a particular country if you ever intend to visit or live there one day



  • Thank you for your extensive reply. I must say you are a very eloquent person and seem to have insight and intelligence. Again my apology if you were offended by by my response to the Honorific issue. It is true even though I have spent the first part of my life in this country, and indeed there are many interesting things about America. I have not interacted very much with American people. I have been home schooled by my mother and my parents took great pains to install a traditional sense of honor and proper behavior into me. Our home is in an isolated area. My father I only see perhaps 4 or 5 times each year because of his work. I have a few friends who are also Japanese like me and I do not interact much with native Americans due to having to spend my free time preparing for my adult life. The few American kids I've me I never really understood well enough to actually become friends with them. Next year I will return to Japan to attend my formal schooling. I plan to remain in Japan. I don't think I will return to America again to live. So you are astute to determine that II have not interacted with this culture much and I do not really understand it. It seems to me to be so very chaotic that I can understand why it has problems with such things as the economy. It seems that people here only care for there own selves. My impression is that this culture is not united as one people working for the common good. Everyone just wants to get for themselves. I will consider the things that you have said. I would like to address this issue with you however:

    @Riles:

    Also, I said you could drop the honorific, and you decided that you would stop naming me entirely. That response, to me, is far more offensive than adding or removing an honorific. Thankfully I'm not someone that gets offended by much of anything, but it might be good for you to better understand the differences in conversation between strangers, friends, and family here in the States.

    That is not exactly how this came across to me thus the vigor of my reply. However I was wrong to say that i was flustered.

    @Riles:

    Please don't call me Riles-san. This is North America and we don't use honorifics

    I hope you understand this is just how it came across to me. I humbly request you not get offended by my attempt at an explanation.
    You did not invite me to drop the honorific. It seemed that you were instructing me to drop the honorific (politely) in the form of a request as if it were offensive to you. You also seemed to imply that I could not choose to use it because this is America and therefore I should get with the American program "you can't do that here because we don't do it." I was taught that the was very disrespectful not to use an honorific. You could have invited me to drop it but you told me to drop it using the word please to soften the blow of basically telling me that I don't have the right to speak that way because Americans do not do it. I don't want to trade my culture for this one. It felt like you were telling me to either go against what I have been taught is right or get out of America. It struck me as a kind of arrogance that has kept me from really connecting with people here. Americans think they are the center of the universe it seems to me sometimes. My intent was to show you respect and it felt like you threw my attempt onto the ground at my feet. I have a feeling I am not expressing myself very well here. I know Americans don't have formal customs like that but I meant no offense to you. Also, it felt very strange to not use it when I had only spoken with you for a few messages. I apologize for my reaction but it sounding really scary and mean-spirited. So I assumed you did not understand how important it is to establish even a brief interaction with someone without following the proper way of interacting.. The only people I speak with in such a manner are my parents my sister and my two friends who come stay with us when our fathers are on long trips. I've known them since I was very very little. You have given me advice and some of it sounds logical, but let me give you a small advice It can take years sometimes before you can be sure you can trust someone on that level. Is it perhaps not good to proceed slowly. Using a persons name alone like they do here means you have come to know them very well. It is important to take the time to learn about a person Then when you are allowed to drop an honorific it is much more powerful of an experience. It really means something. Names are powerful things.

    So please accept my deepest apology for snapping at you. I was wrong and am sincerely sorry. Its OK if you don't get what I'm trying to say.

    @Riles:

    You should probably care. Acting with your personal beliefs while in different cultures can be disrespectful and dangerous if you're not careful. Adding honorifics to the end of names isn't disrespectful here in America, but it'll certainly open the door to ridicule

    In Japan even if you do something crazy people will not ridicule you because they do not want to make you lose face. They would just leave you alone. I don't care if American's ridicule me. I am proud of my homeland and my people. I think we are pretty nice people if you are patient and wait. Anything worth doing or anyone worth knowing is also worth taking the proper amount of time to allow it to happen in a natural way. Americans are often so mean to each other. It makes me sad to see it. So I keep to myself. I won't be a sore thumb when I get back home. The only reason I even had to come here because my father works here in America. I can't wait to get to a place where things make sense.

    I have traveled quite a bit so I understand how to deal with other cultures for the most part. We go to Europe or Japan every summer.

    @Riles:

    Otherwise, you might accidentally come across someone one day that is easily offended, and that might be a much more unpleasant situation

    For them perhaps LOL.

    Anyway. I think we had a good dialog going about anime and DxD and things concerning that anime. You are an interesting person. I will drop the honorific and call you Riles if you really want (although it feels to soon so I'm uneasy about it still). I was wrong to say what I did . I am writing this because I don't like to not have people be happy with each other and we are like you said both anime fans. Perhaps we will speak again in the future. If you want to discuss stuff about anime or hobbies I enjoy a good discussion. I will understand if have offended you. But you taught me some stuff here about how the anime industry works and I thank you for sharing your knowledge if nothing else.

    Ravaen-san

    And yes I am in love with Rias Grimory. It was not the censorship as much as the stupid way they went about doing it.



  • @ravaen:

    I have not interacted very much with American people. I have been home schooled by my mother and my parents took great pains to install a traditional sense of honor and proper behavior into me. Our home is in an isolated area. I have a few friends who are also Japanese like me and I do not interact much with native Americans due to having to spend my free time preparing for my adult life.

    This explains a bit about previous posts.

    It seems to me to be so very chaotic that I can understand why it has problems with such things as the economy. It seems that people here only care for there own selves. My impression is that this culture is not united as one people working for the common good.

    Same could be said about Japan. Both the US and Japan have similar attitudes towards others based on my understanding.

    I hope you understand this is just how it came across to me. I humbly request you not get offended by my attempt at an explanation.
    You did not invite me to drop the honorific. It seemed that you were instructing me to drop the honorific (politely) in the form of a request as if it were offensive to you. You also seemed to imply that I could not choose to use it because this is America and therefore I should get with the American program "you can't do that here because we don't do it." I was taught that the was very disrespectful not to use an honorific. You could have invited me to drop it but you told me to drop it using the word please to soften the blow of basically telling me that I don't have the right to speak that way because Americans do not do it. I don't want to trade my culture for this one. It felt like you were telling me to either go against what I have been taught is right or get out of America. It struck me as a kind of arrogance that has kept me from really connecting with people here. Americans think they are the center of the universe it seems to me sometimes. My intent was to show you respect and it felt like you threw my attempt onto the ground at my feet. I have a feeling I am not expressing myself very well here. I know Americans don't have formal customs like that but I meant no offense to you. Also, it felt very strange to not use it when I had only spoken with you for a few messages. I apologize for my reaction but it sounding really scary and mean-spirited. So I assumed you did not understand how important it is to establish even a brief interaction with someone without following the proper way of interacting.. The only people I speak with in such a manner are my parents my sister and my two friends who come stay with us when our fathers are on long trips. I've known them since I was very very little. You have given me advice and some of it sounds logical, but let me give you a small advice It can take years sometimes before you can be sure you can trust someone on that level. Is it perhaps not good to proceed slowly. Using a persons name alone like they do here means you have come to know them very well. It is important to take the time to learn about a person Then when you are allowed to drop an honorific it is much more powerful of an experience. It really means something. Names are powerful things.

    So please accept my deepest apology for snapping at you. I was wrong and am sincerely sorry. Its OK if you don't get what I'm trying to say.

    Probably has a lot to do with how you grew up, based on you stating that you had few interactions with Americans. Riles I think is largely right but I just wanted to bring up that our honorifics is just different from Japanese ones. Japanese uses words like: sama, san, chan, kun, (primarily) (of which I have no clue what they actually mean aside from varying levels of respect). While English speakers use Mr. Ms. Mrs. Sir Ma'am stuff like that.

    My personal preference is that honorifics just add fluff to a sentence, which is like the one thing that bothers me when I read a light novel, and should be taken out of an English translation. It probably has more to do with English speakers viewing each other as equals unlike Japanese people.



  • I hope you are right, it would be a shame to suddenly change from uncensored to censored, I mean besides the plot I can here to watch Issei can his grope on, lol.



  • Here's the thing. This is being aired uncensored on certain channels, so it stands that this can be aired on funimation.com uncensored as well. This is rated TV-MA which means only adults should be watching this. If you're concerned about a child watching this, then set up parental controls or parent your children. It is ridiculous to expect a company or government to parent for you. I personally will be waiting until this is aired uncensored because that was the biggest draw to this anime. Besides, it was horribly censored with moving and floating D's. I can't even watch the show like that!

    • A father.


  • @moxiesan:

    Here's the thing. This is being aired uncensored on certain channels, so it stands that this can be aired on funimation.com uncensored as well.

    No it can't, because AT-X has temporary exclusive rights to the uncensored footage.

    Let me put it this way: AT-X is like Showtime for Japan, but even more expensive. If Japanese citizens are already paying through the nose for an uncensored premium cable network, then they're not going to be happy if their American counterparts get the exact same uncensored footage, on-demand, for only $8 a month.

    Hence, why the uncensored footage is Japanese-premium-cable-only for the time being. Absolutely nothing FUNimation could do on this earth could let them get a hold of those masters right away.

    So, in the mean time, you get censored footage with giant winged D's floating in front of boobies.

    That's just the way it is, I'm afraid. :hmm:


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