FUNimation under fire?



  • Recently (and i was pretty surprised) but, i’ve come across a number of YouTube vids demonizing FUNimation - - in particular, works that Jamie Marchi has been a part of. I’m not going to provide links to those vids because i don’t desire to create an atmosphere of “going after people”, but, trust me, they are there in a quick search. This is not to say that some of what these presenters have brought to the table isn’t valid criticism, but, i guess the number of people voicing opposition to a path that (according to these people) FUN has been on for some time now, is enough to at least give me pause.

    Some, are advocating for boycotts of FUNimation’s DVD/ Blu Ray releases until the culture at FUN changes. Now, i can understand the concept of “voting with your wallet”, however, with this, will underestimated fallout occur? Perhaps consequences people might not fully grasp what they’ve embarked upon? Imagine, for a moment, FUNimation’s sales dropping so precipitously that the company can just no longer bankroll its voice talent, leading to the ultimate disintegration of the company? In any organization there will be room for improvement, yet, at the same time, i don’t think we want to turn this into a case of biting our nose to spite our face.

    With so many competing interests, moreso than ever before, i think the anime community, in particular, the FUNimation community should stand unified supporting FUNimation’s works (to the extent that they can) to ensure our stake of future relevancy. At least for me, it’s going to be a miserable day if i find out that FUNimation is going out of business. In large part, what Hollywood presents to us as “entertainment” just doesn’t cut it, at least for me. Anime, brought to life by FUNimation with thought-provoking and heartfelt concepts, reaches me in ways that other mediums just can’t.

    Concluding, FUNimation is the necessary crosscurrent to today’s stale media, and, i would strongly encourage people to fully think through their actions before engaging on a “war path” of no return. One last note, for all the fire Ms. Marchi has received on YouTube, have we all forgotten so quickly that she was the voice of Miki Hashiba in Suzuka? Just remember that wonderful performance before wholesale criticizing her. She is immensely talented and i would be so blessed to meet her in person if i can ever muster the wherewithal to get to one of the cons (laughs) :-)

    Hoping this post finds everyone well,

    Sincerely,
    P.J.



  • @P-J
    Seriously, why bring this up? Everyone has critics, half the stuff they complain about is either not under their control (ie the Script) or people just don't like a particular VA because they don't like them as an actor, or they got snubbed by them at a convention and are just getting petty revenge because they have access to youtube.

    @P.J. said in FUNimation under fire?:

    the FUNimation community should stand unified supporting FUNimation’s works (to the extent that they can)

    I just buy the stuff that I like from Funimation. 2016, I only bought 2 titles, This year I've bought around 15, next year will probably be a lot less, like around half more than likely, unless they get some more good catalog pick ups



  • Many Youtubers create controversy on purpose to generate views and get money.

    If their argument is that Jamie Marchi is trying to make the scripts too PC, then they obviously haven't watched High School DxD.



  • I'll go in the same line as the others before me, a lot of Youtubers like to make themselves look important and knowledgeable on the screen to make as much ad revenue as possible.



  • @HOOfan1 said in FUNimation under fire?:

    Many Youtubers create controversy on purpose to generate views and get money.

    @the_krock said in FUNimation under fire?:

    I'll go in the same line as the others before me, a lot of Youtubers like to make themselves look important and knowledgeable on the screen to make as much ad revenue as possible.

    Most of these videos don't actually get a lot of views (most popular one I saw has a little over 35,000 views) so can you really say people do this for the money?



  • @Rejectedshadow said in FUNimation under fire?:

    Most of these videos don't actually get a lot of views (most popular one I saw has a little over 35,000 views) so can you really say people do this for the money?

    I'd say that they "try" to create enough controversy so that their channel gets the attention they want, it doesn't mean that they manage to do it though. But I admit that my comment was aimed more at Youtubers in general since I don't about who PJ references to in his post.



  • The ones who are saying boycott funimation and fire Jamie are probably just elitest who never watched dubbed anime nor actually buy it they're likely just mad that so much anime gets dubbed now, it also shows how stupid they are because Jamie or any VA for that matter aren't funimation employees they're contracted for each project they do.



  • That's only true if they are just there for a recording session and nothing else. ADR directing and script writing are full time jobs and they are funi employees.



  • @Rejectedshadow said in FUNimation under fire?:

    @HOOfan1 said in FUNimation under fire?:

    Many Youtubers create controversy on purpose to generate views and get money.

    @the_krock said in FUNimation under fire?:

    I'll go in the same line as the others before me, a lot of Youtubers like to make themselves look important and knowledgeable on the screen to make as much ad revenue as possible.

    Most of these videos don't actually get a lot of views (most popular one I saw has a little over 35,000 views) so can you really say people do this for the money?

    Poor views is why they try to generate controversy....or they are just jerks.



  • @lcdude said in FUNimation under fire?:

    The ones who are saying boycott funimation and fire Jamie are probably just elitest who never watched dubbed anime nor actually buy it they're likely just mad that so much anime gets dubbed now, it also shows how stupid they are because Jamie or any VA for that matter aren't funimation employees they're contracted for each project they do.

    Yep. This thread is pretty much beating a dead horse, but for the sake of answering OP no, a couple of youtubers complaining doesn't concern me. Especially when you start to realize how misinformed their sweeping generalizations are concerning how dubs themselves are actually made.

    There's definitely conversations to be made for how best to adapt conversations into English, but I honestly can't take the most vocal of the bashers seriously, because they just have an axe to grind.



  • around 2010 funimation tried to censor 'Dance in the Vampire Bund", they later managed to successfully censor Haganai with no one noticing, then there was the gamergate comment in prison school, then recently crap changed in kobayashi (even injected the feminist 'miss' into the title) and hajimete no gyaru. Then there is all the crap flying under the radar like Interviews with Monster Girls. When fans complained they deflected criticism and played the victim card, further destroying any faith people might have. They also have a long standing history of using the 'perfect translation is impossible' excuse to do whatever they want and a mentality of 'people who want accuracy go for subs and people who don't care about accuracy will watch dub', which simply isn't the case. If a dub makes people want to watch sub, then the dub is a failure. I can't even think about watching something by funimation without wondering how much butchering they did that I don't know about.

    I've heard names thrown around about who's to blame, but ultimately it's funimation that is responsible. The fact that funimation not only hasn't fired anyone (I don't care about names, we can only speculate) combined with an acceleration of the behavior indicates that they condone the behavior, which means it will only get worse. This is why I boycott them, I also send them copies of receipts on purchases I make with sentai to make sure they understand they lost a paying customer. I don't care about names, but unless funimation takes action and heads start rolling, I have no reason to trust them.



  • @MordethKai said in FUNimation under fire?:
    , they later managed to successfully censor Haganai with no one noticing,

    If you are talking about Haganai Next, they did put a notice on the Blu Ray packaging that some of the broadcast footage was used. Also the censored part could easily have bumped into child pornography laws, if not Federal, then possibly some state laws. It wasn't just depicting nudity, it was actually depicting a sexual act involving a girl who looked suspiciously like the MC's 13 year old sister.

    It was really a minor censoring and their legal team probably demanded it.



  • Everytime I see someone whining and complaining about the line in Dragon Maid or My Girlfriend is a Gal, I can't help but think

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    I'm sorry, but do we not remember the days of Cardcaptor Sakura butchering the story to appeal to an entirely different demographic then the original was made for? The infamous "jelly donuts"? Homosexual couples in original series being changed to "cousins"? These throwaway lines are pretty easily forgotten compared to that.

    The fact that people throw a tantrum and actually take the time to fling around receipts to rival companies just boggles my mind and frankly, just hearing that makes me want to further support Funimation.



  • @MordethKai said in FUNimation under fire?:

    around 2010 funimation tried to censor 'Dance in the Vampire Bund",

    Yeah, for child pornography standards. Oh, and they got approval from the creators so according to the people who whine about artistic integrity, the fact that they got permission makes the point moot.

    @MordethKai said in FUNimation under fire?:

    they later managed to successfully censor Haganai with no one noticing,

    Again you're listing like what 4 or 5 series when Funimtion has licensed and dubbed damn near over 200. Quite the sample size there.



  • For those replying about Voice Actors and what-not, I'm just going to point out that Jamie Marchi is also a script writer and there have been at least two shows that she has drawn quite a bit of ire (Dragon Maid and Prison School).

    Also worth noting that she has done quite a bit more than just those two shows, here's her ANN page: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=13966

    You can boycott her, but I'd fully expect you to set your copies of Spice and Wolf, DxD, Haganai and Baka and Test on fire.



  • @crimsonechidna said in FUNimation under fire?:

    Again you're listing like what 4 or 5 series when Funimtion has licensed and dubbed damn near over 200. Quite the sample size there.

    they're also wrong as not only did people notice but as @HOOfan1 points out, the Haganai thing was right on the box and Funimation could have potentially got in legal trouble for keeping it in.



  • There's an issue with Interviews with Monster Girls?



  • @Getchman He's probably just searching for meaningless buzz words, nothing he says should be taken seriously he contradicts himself so much he literally made a thread like a week ago accusing funimation employees of being sex offenders yet he's here complaining about an underaged sex scene being removed from a show. I wonder how he'll react if he sees the crunchyroll produced dub of testamet with a line that mocks his kind I'm guessing he won't say a word because these people only have a problem when funimation does it.



  • @Getchman There's a scene where someone uses the phrase "social justice warrior" and a few people got irritated. The writer, Kristen McGuire, has already explained why she used the phrase in that particular scene, and in my own personal opinion it actually fits the context of the scene in question.



  • oh, that. Thought that was one of the rare moments where it was used correctly, the original definition, before the internet corrupted it



  • Hello Series5Ranger,

    Good to hear from you again. You explain,

    “Seriously, why bring this up?”

    Generally speaking, if you own a company, i believe it is in your interest to pay attention to surrounding intelligence (whether good or bad) insofar as, if ignored, you could wake up to find yourself irrelevant in the marketplace. Now, you could argue that this is hardly what might be considered as deeming FUNimation irrelevant, however, it is amazing how quickly things can snowball. I once had a marketing professor who explained good news travels fast, but, negative words twice as fast. I hold that it behooves FUNimation to keep abreast of surrounding “chatter” and issue statements to allay or, at the very least, acknowledge fans’ raised concerns.

    Regards,
    P.J.


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