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Re: favorite outfit on Holo

Alexnssilent wrote:
Nono. that is cearly now how it ends good sir...you need to buy the light novels! and struggle translating it like I did.
Or just wait for the official translation. Less work but not as fast.

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Re: favorite outfit on Holo

Alexnssilent wrote:
Nono. that is cearly now how it ends good sir...you need to buy the light novels! and struggle translating it like I did.

but i know as much Japanese as i know about something that I DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!

Richard J. wrote:
Or just wait for the official translation. Less work but not as fast.

That would be the only option... besides, I would miss the drawings too much... although I have no issues reading stuff, it would be annoying to go from pretty shiny red eyes and face palming moments to weird symbols in a piece of paper... crying

Can someone here make an anime out of the light novels? LOL

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I am watching Spice and Wolf for the first time, both seasons on blu-ray just came in the mail. I am only on episode 6 but I think my favorite outfit on Holo would have to be the one she had on most of episode 1.

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I don't think they were girls clothes, plus he said they were very expensive, so most likely he got them from some Asian traders, near China or Mongolia, just by looking at the clothing style.

That's how they dressed usually. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/BogdKhan.jpg (and this even more modern than the time period that S&W takes place)

Wow, impressive research! ( I almost thought your avatar was "Diana" for a minute". )
I wonder if they will run into Asian traders at some point? ( no, haven't read most novels yet )

Sill, I think is something of a "plot hole" that Laurence's clothes ( particularly the vest? how would that fit his square shoulders, and tall frame ) just happen to fit her so well!

But we can forgive them for that, because it just looks better as a character design.

I vote for Holo's Season 2 outfit, the purple with the ankle bracelets.
It seems to have some Gypsy / Mideast influence? It emphasizes the fact that she is "from another world"

The Fox fur stole is an ironic touch! Because she herself resembles a fox (less so on the novel artwork, where she's a brunette.)

I think the hood looks better than the "nun's cap" as a way to hide her ears.

Question - we never see it, as her hair is never brushed back - does Holo have another set of Human ears below her wolf ears on top? woot

Edited by: Wolf of Monte C... on 12/29/2011 - 9:58am. Reason:
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Re: favorite outfit on Holo

didn't notice this at first. but -

RavenTwoFive wrote:
FORGET ALL OF THAT.

I apologize for the caps, but I found what I believe to be the best Holo outfit yet. Please keep reading before clicking the link. (Possible Spoiler)

It's possible this is a spoiler for some of the later novels, or even the Epilogue novel (17). I can't say with certainty but I believe Holo and Lawrence get married possibly.

My analysis of the painting which is available for purchase in Japan for roughly 30 dollars.

http://spicy-wolf.com/original/paintings.html

My thoughts - and more possible spoilage.

Spoiler: Highlight to view

Yes, that is probably a wedding dress. Not the formal sort, but suitable for a bride who loves nature! As in RenFaire. Surprising it took them 17 books to reach that, eh? There is also another picture I saw somewhere with a yellow/white buttoned dress that is somehow more mature / settled down than her earlier clothing - like a young mother might wear?

Edited by: Wolf of Monte C... on 01/04/2012 - 5:57am. Reason:
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Ah yes. The picture that spawned a thousand spoiler warnings. That image is the cover illustration to the "final volume," vol. 17. I use quotations because vol. 17 officially ends the story, but there are a number of side-stories Hasekura-sensei wrote for different magazines and contests that were never bound into an official S&W novel. Volume 11 of the novels is a collection of these kinds of stories, a sort of anthology of tangential stories. Episode 7 from season 1 (where Lawrence and Holo are shopping for clothes) and Episode 0 from season 2 (when Lawrence nurses Holo when she falls sick) are based on stories that are compiled in volume 11. So while vol. 17 is the "final volume," there's enough extra stories for a volume 18, if and when they decide to pull them all together.

Personally, I avoid almost every mention of volume 17, so that the picture remains a "teaser" rather than a "spoiler," but it's definitely a very good outfit. Very befitting of Holo, and very good for so many "I wonder how it ends?" fantasies.

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Commander X wrote:
I like her first outfit better, I would also like to point out that Holo puts on lawrence's best clothes, but there all girls clothes..... its not like a tux or something, whats with that, was he cross-dressing?

That post was from a while back, but I skimmed the thread and didn't see anyone mention the novel's take on this. In the novel, those clothes were Lawrence's and it said something like they were extremely well made and wearing them would have given Lawrence an advantage with anyone in a business deal. It said he was saving them to wear when doing business with nobles and other high profile people. When Holo put them on, it said that the clothes were too big for her, but because of that was able to hide her tail.

I haven't read the manga, but the anime kind of skimmed over that and only showed little clues like the shirt/top being folded near the cuffs. I have no idea if the clothes were a unisex kind of thing, but at the very least, those clothes were for men.

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Indeed, as Juice said, Holo wore the clothes in a different way than Lawrence would have. Her skirt, for instance, was actually a sort of coat/cloak that she fashioned into a dress. The pants were loose enough not to constrict her tail, though obviously she needed a belt. She actually asked Lawrence if she could cut a hole in them for simplicity's sake, but he vehemently refused. As Juice said, she rolled up the sleeves at the cuffs and did the same with the pant legs. If Lawrence had a chance to wear those clothes, he would have worn them much differently. But now he can't, because, well, too big for human form, -way- too small for wolf form.

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The loose first of the rest is possible, but I still say the vest wouldn't work in the shoulders.

( Speaking of shoulders, the expensive black "mini-cape" that they get at a discount from the shop owner wouldn't have actually kept her much warmer in the winter? )

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Ha ha, have you seen the "fan art" picture with a guy wearing that outfit? I noticed it on Google images.

...but that guy isn't Lawrence?

It's Holo, as a guy, and Kraft as the girl!

Seriously though, it could be a real challenge for Lawrence
if he has to have a male Wise Wolf as a rival later on in the story?

( Not a spoiler - I'm just guessing. )

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The game continues...

Another good artwork here ( and possible spoiler? )

Look up "Ju Ayakura Art Works Spice and Wolf Art Book" on Amazon.

On the cover is a familiar "spoiler" image, but ignore that -
click the fourth thumbnail.

Holo has a really nice flowing white dress here, like a Greek Goddess.
She's still got the bag with the wheat. ( Also, angel feathers? hmm )

but -

Spoiler: Highlight to view
Compare the girl to the right of Holo - zoom in. There's some resemblance, but It's not her - no ears or tail, shorter, different color hair, etc. That could be her (half?) human daughter with Laurence? Or just another NPC for the story. pirate There is something "rabbit like" about her pose... Note the SD Holo's to the far right imitating other characters?

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