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No Blu-Ray?

Is R+V not available on BD? I can't find it anywhere. It's in HD on Netflix, so I don't see why there's no BD. I guess I can settle for DVD, but I usually prefer to watch animes, and everything else for that matter, in HD.

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Re: No Blu-Ray?

It available on BD but you will paid over $400 for the Japanese version.

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Re: No Blu-Ray?

Like Jlaking said...

But, HD, does not mean Blu Ray. Blu ray can hold 25gb of data, were as a DVD (dual layer which most are) can hold 4.7GB, (actually 4.5 of storage though). Which is why DVD box sets generally have like 5 discs for a season of like 1 show. But in this case, it has only 2 discs where the blu ray has 3... which is why i am confused.
Unless they have compressed the DVD version were as one episode is about 200mb or something (which could be awfull) and the blu ray just uses the Raw file and is uncompressed which is why 13 episodes are on 3 discs that cover 75gb total...
Basically the quaility could almost be identicle, because animated shows generally dont require as much space as a modern movie and graphically there isnt as much going on, but its pretty much all based on how compressed it is.
So after my TLDR section, dont let the DVD version scare you off from getting a hard copy of the series, either way it will be good quality and you will enjoy it smile

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Re: No Blu-Ray?

Viperbite wrote:
Blu ray can hold 25gb of data, were as a DVD (dual layer which most are) can hold 4.7GB, (actually 4.5 of storage though).
Depends on how many layers are used for each disc. BD can support up to 4 on a single side, though not all players can read the deeper layers.
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Unless they have compressed the DVD version were as one episode is about 200mb or something (which could be awfull)
Please show your work. Two single layer discs for 13 episodes would come out to about 650MB, after menus and such.
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the blu ray just uses the Raw file and is uncompressed which is why 13 episodes are on 3 discs that cover 75gb total...
Not true. It's typically H.264/AVC or VC-1, both of which are less lossy than MPEG-2, but neither is RAW video, which takes up an enormous amount of space.
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Basically the quaility could almost be identicle, because animated shows generally dont require as much space as a modern movie and graphically there isnt as much going on, but its pretty much all based on how compressed it is.
Perhaps, but MPEG-2, the codec used for DVDs, is optimized for real-life video, which is why banding and artifacting are such major issues for anime on DVD.

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Re: No Blu-Ray?

EyeOfPain wrote:
Viperbite wrote:
Blu ray can hold 25gb of data, were as a DVD (dual layer which most are) can hold 4.7GB, (actually 4.5 of storage though).
Depends on how many layers are used for each disc. BD can support up to 4 on a single side, though not all players can read the deeper layers.
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Unless they have compressed the DVD version were as one episode is about 200mb or something (which could be awfull)
Please show your work. Two single layer discs for 13 episodes would come out to about 650MB, after menus and such.
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Now, if you read, i stated that (as most are dual layered DVD's) not all, as why i stated MOST, as for my 200mb comment, i am no spur of the moment math genius i simply guesstamated lol, it was not to be any exact number which is why again as i stated unless they were 200mb they shouldnt look like buffering a video with crap framerate and image tearing like a VHS tape. and my statement for the Blue Ray, i do know that the most common format H.264/AVC. which is why i said "UNLESS" they have compressed the DVD version were as one episode is about 200mb or something (which could be awfull) and the blu ray just uses the Raw file and is uncompressed which is why 13 episodes are on 3 discs that cover 75gb total... " Which is why in my previous statement was "Thats why i am confused" a modern Blu Ray movie at 1080p is around 15-20gb (around). Also depends on the bitrate.
As for my last statement. COULD be identicle meaning, your eyes may or may not process it. Like playing BF3 at 60fps or 80fps you may feel it plays differently at times but for all you know it appears to be the same, there is only so much that can be done to change the quality. Owning several DVD,s and trying to switch over to Blu Ray now, i really havnt come across many that have like 50% more significant difference except Blu Rays run a helluva lot smoother, and seem to have less choppy and static like audio. Could also rely on the player.
But as Far as Anime goes, concidering i have a small collection of Anime on Blu Ray and DvD, your more than certainly can be correct. As visual quality for animation like i said there can only be a certain degree of how much.
I do not disagree with you but some of my points you may have thought I came off as stateing it all as 100% thats the way it is, which is why i refrained from useing anything except "like" "similar" "and "im confused" lol

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Re: No Blu-Ray?

It seems Funimation has not obtained the rights to release this series on Blu-ray since the series is being re-released on April 23rd only on DVD. It released on Blu-ray in Japan some time ago.

Some notes on the other discussion in this thread. A single layer DVD is 4.7GB (4.48GB actual space), a dual layer DVD is 8.5GB (8.10GB actual space). HD is defined by the video resolution of 720p (1028x720) or 1080p (1920x1080). The resolution of a DVD is only 480p (720x480). As stated by EyeOfPain, the MPEG-2 format uses a compression algorithm that works fine for real-life motion but not so well with animated motion regardless of the space used on the disc.

Netflix can offer the show in HD because Funimation most likely received the materials from Japan in HD but then had to encode it in SD (480p) for the DVD release.

Edited by: MicroChip on 02/01/2013 - 10:06pm. Reason:
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