I don't care what others say all i know is that these acts are stupid, come on we all know what will probably happen if the internet turns into a safe zone or something stupid like that makes everyone just pissed off. it will probably make people go crazy and start throwing shit around like a bunch of manics, well that how I see it. people in politics these days are pretty stupid. they think they know what there doing then end up like president hoover. i retard that doesn't know what the hell they are going to do.
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Hey frodo don't think you can get away that easy with that damn ring.
From what I'm hearing, reading, etc., this sound like taking the way that Public Schools censor their internet to their students. To me there is a silver lining that you just don't cross and the SOPA & PIPA acts are not only crossing that line, they're taking a [Dump] on that line and burying that line in their own [Crap]. Okay, maybe that was a bit much, but you get my point.
THIS is why government controlling anything make whatever they are controlling MUCH worse 99% of the time.
I agree with Richard Tager & co. I don't care much for modern politics either..... between the modern worlds natural (insane) social climate and the mass media, they are nothing more then a joke and a shell of their former selves (seriously somewhere in the Afterlife George Washington is out there cussing like a Sailor because of it I bet.)
But yeah laws like SOPA & PIPA would do nothing but harm the internet as a whole. And as we saw with the recent megavideo shut-down, the goverment can do their job just fine without resorting to blasphimous laws like SOPA & PIPA.
I honestly wonder if the FBI chose now to take the site down to show that the government they didn't need the laws. If so...good for you FBI, good for you!
The other thing is that the government clearly doesn't understand that these bills won't affect just America, but the whole world. Many other countries are going to get pissed at us because our government is run by a bunch of morons.
Also, I'm sure many of you have heard by now that Megaupload has been shut down and their employees have been indicted. I'm bringing this up because the group Anonymous launched an attack yesterday in response to this. They attacked the Justice Department's and a bunch of entertainment companies' websites. If a major group like Anonymous does this for shutting down a single website, what will they do if the US government shuts down the whole internet?
All I can say is that the government should really think about what SOPA and PIPA will do before they decide to vote on them, and that they should be afraid of the American people, Anonymous, and the other major powers of the world.
Well megaupload was completely shotdown and prosecuted for numerous charges. It seem's that even though it is in the shadows waiting/hoping to be passed there pushing for stuff to be done already. For them to have shut down that website when it has been around for year's being noticed it seems like a direct retaliation attack for those who went in protest over the internet. Sadly this is something we can never proof it could just be a coincidence but i think we would be naieve to believe so.
If these are passed everything as we know it online would completely change, we would not be free to speak like we do now, not completely anyway. Social networks would shut down due to if one single person posts something copyright guarenteed eventually it would cause problems. Such as facebook how much content on there is there own? they have millions of people from around the world using it, saying what they want, showing what they want and for sure something will go wrong and bye bye facebook.
Same with youtube although i do wonder if they would be shut down or would just have to completely amend everything in there uploading policy, as they do have a lot of stuff there sponsered with and so forth but heck there is alot of videos on youtube which people have uploaded time and time again on numerous accounts because they have been banned or locked out of a previous account. Imagine how much stuff would have to be done before youtube could be safe! i honestly do not think that is possible at this time it would either cause a huge downtime on the net and even closure of the sites we all use daily and love.
In many countries facebook has been banned along with twitter and it proves that in some countries you are not allowed to have freedom of speech, it was only a matter of time before something like this happened elsewhere.
Now this is what makes me laugh and confuses me both at the same time do they honestly think this will change anything? sure it will cause us to not be able to be online the same way we use to but isn't this meant to help stop piracy? how so? by completely removing almost 80% of what people go on. It would be porn sites, anything with links to anime, music, movies, files which would include daily motion, veoh, youtube and then we have the social network sites like twitter, facebook, myspace, bebo and hundreds other types. How long before it goes further to blogs? or to peoples personal fan websites. Eventually all we would be able to view online is stuff companies put up and information and no doubt even that would be censored.
It will not prevent piracy as honestly how many of us have brought a cd or dvd and then lent it out. well either though we are not gaining revenue from that item we are still sharing it with someone who did not buy the item. Again there will be backdoor sales going from those who buy a dvd and duplicate it and just spread word to friends they can get them for cheap. It would prevent some of it online sure but we would go back to the old days where you would see a stall or even as i said selling at home. Lets face it technology is getting so better it would not be long before those looked completely authetic to a normal persons eye.
They cannot prevent piracy 100% it is just completely impossible.
What are we paying for monthly again? to view information and have fun on the net if these are passed neither of that is possible so not only will companies lose money but a lot of websites will go bankrupt and i would not be surprised if it was a lot of the companies who are urging for this to be passed.
Welp SOPA may be postponed, but the threat still lingers, according to an article I read in The Wallstreet Journal (yeah I read WSJ, wanna fight about it, lol.) Hollywood is putting together an ad-campaign that will better infrom the public about the bill and "misconceptions" people have about it.
All I can say is BULL $#*T!!! There were no misconceptions, everyone saw what a horrid laws SOPA & PIPA would have been and they fought back. They really just need to drop this issue all together or I do belive things will just get worse, not just for us average everyday net users, but good ol (and I say that sacrastically) Hollywood and D.C. as well.
Seriously, what do they not understand about censoring the internet is BAD!
But yeah, hopefully no one (or very few) will be convinced by their upcoming BS ads. Hope the organizations against it can come up with just a strong counter-attack during this reprive.
Do they honestly think that those AD campaigns will change the publics oppinion? Everyone know's that the ADS are completely false just like photoshopped makeup adverts or products which are meant to change your appearance or complextion. I doubt the public will believe anything they put up. But we might be wrong there i really hope not though.
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"I think it’d be a great honor to be able to influence someone’s joy."
Also kind of ranty here but... One of the things that has continuously worried me about laws like SOPA, PIPA, ACTA, etc. Is that i've wondered how such laws would affect fan works. I mean for some reason some people think you either have to chose between protecting copyright or protecting free speech, thats just not true, you can protect both, and honestly both should be protected, but im getting of track. Anywho yeah I love looking at fanworks, fan comics, fan art, fan fics etc. And while im sure laws like this don't affect them, over time they could have, and that would have been bad. I mean most of the net is user/fan generated content. So again while these laws don't specifically touch on such works, it does make one worry that if a law ever passed, if it would hamper the creativity of fanbases? (note this of course excludes fan-subs since those are indeed breaking copyright law, and are not creative at all no matter how many curse words the fans put in to try to make the show more "Adult" lol.)
I don't care what others say all i know is that these acts are stupid, come on we all know what will probably happen if the internet turns into a safe zone or something stupid like that makes everyone just pissed off. it will probably make people go crazy and start throwing shit around like a bunch of manics, well that how I see it. people in politics these days are pretty stupid. they think they know what there doing then end up like president hoover. i retard that doesn't know what the hell they are going to do.
Hey frodo don't think you can get away that easy with that damn ring.
From what I'm hearing, reading, etc., this sound like taking the way that Public Schools censor their internet to their students. To me there is a silver lining that you just don't cross and the SOPA & PIPA acts are not only crossing that line, they're taking a [Dump] on that line and burying that line in their own [Crap]. Okay, maybe that was a bit much, but you get my point.
THIS is why government controlling anything make whatever they are controlling MUCH worse 99% of the time.
--@AgeTyree
I agree with Richard Tager & co. I don't care much for modern politics either..... between the modern worlds natural (insane) social climate and the mass media, they are nothing more then a joke and a shell of their former selves (seriously somewhere in the Afterlife George Washington is out there cussing like a Sailor because of it I bet.)
But yeah laws like SOPA & PIPA would do nothing but harm the internet as a whole. And as we saw with the recent megavideo shut-down, the goverment can do their job just fine without resorting to blasphimous laws like SOPA & PIPA.
I honestly wonder if the FBI chose now to take the site down to show that the government they didn't need the laws. If so...good for you FBI, good for you!
All Will Know The Wonder Of My Dark & Jewled Sky, When All The World Is Wrapped In An Eternal Lullabye.
The other thing is that the government clearly doesn't understand that these bills won't affect just America, but the whole world. Many other countries are going to get pissed at us because our government is run by a bunch of morons.
Also, I'm sure many of you have heard by now that Megaupload has been shut down and their employees have been indicted. I'm bringing this up because the group Anonymous launched an attack yesterday in response to this. They attacked the Justice Department's and a bunch of entertainment companies' websites. If a major group like Anonymous does this for shutting down a single website, what will they do if the US government shuts down the whole internet?
All I can say is that the government should really think about what SOPA and PIPA will do before they decide to vote on them, and that they should be afraid of the American people, Anonymous, and the other major powers of the world.
Well megaupload was completely shotdown and prosecuted for numerous charges. It seem's that even though it is in the shadows waiting/hoping to be passed there pushing for stuff to be done already. For them to have shut down that website when it has been around for year's being noticed it seems like a direct retaliation attack for those who went in protest over the internet. Sadly this is something we can never proof it could just be a coincidence but i think we would be naieve to believe so.
If these are passed everything as we know it online would completely change, we would not be free to speak like we do now, not completely anyway. Social networks would shut down due to if one single person posts something copyright guarenteed eventually it would cause problems. Such as facebook how much content on there is there own? they have millions of people from around the world using it, saying what they want, showing what they want and for sure something will go wrong and bye bye facebook.
Same with youtube although i do wonder if they would be shut down or would just have to completely amend everything in there uploading policy, as they do have a lot of stuff there sponsered with and so forth but heck there is alot of videos on youtube which people have uploaded time and time again on numerous accounts because they have been banned or locked out of a previous account. Imagine how much stuff would have to be done before youtube could be safe! i honestly do not think that is possible at this time it would either cause a huge downtime on the net and even closure of the sites we all use daily and love.
In many countries facebook has been banned along with twitter and it proves that in some countries you are not allowed to have freedom of speech, it was only a matter of time before something like this happened elsewhere.
Now this is what makes me laugh and confuses me both at the same time do they honestly think this will change anything? sure it will cause us to not be able to be online the same way we use to but isn't this meant to help stop piracy? how so? by completely removing almost 80% of what people go on. It would be porn sites, anything with links to anime, music, movies, files which would include daily motion, veoh, youtube and then we have the social network sites like twitter, facebook, myspace, bebo and hundreds other types. How long before it goes further to blogs? or to peoples personal fan websites. Eventually all we would be able to view online is stuff companies put up and information and no doubt even that would be censored.
It will not prevent piracy as honestly how many of us have brought a cd or dvd and then lent it out. well either though we are not gaining revenue from that item we are still sharing it with someone who did not buy the item. Again there will be backdoor sales going from those who buy a dvd and duplicate it and just spread word to friends they can get them for cheap. It would prevent some of it online sure but we would go back to the old days where you would see a stall or even as i said selling at home. Lets face it technology is getting so better it would not be long before those looked completely authetic to a normal persons eye.
They cannot prevent piracy 100% it is just completely impossible.
What are we paying for monthly again? to view information and have fun on the net if these are passed neither of that is possible so not only will companies lose money but a lot of websites will go bankrupt and i would not be surprised if it was a lot of the companies who are urging for this to be passed.
[wah my 2cent and random babblings]
"I think it’d be a great honor to be able to influence someone’s joy."
Welp SOPA may be postponed, but the threat still lingers, according to an article I read in The Wallstreet Journal (yeah I read WSJ, wanna fight about it, lol.) Hollywood is putting together an ad-campaign that will better infrom the public about the bill and "misconceptions" people have about it.
All I can say is BULL $#*T!!! There were no misconceptions, everyone saw what a horrid laws SOPA & PIPA would have been and they fought back. They really just need to drop this issue all together or I do belive things will just get worse, not just for us average everyday net users, but good ol (and I say that sacrastically) Hollywood and D.C. as well.
Seriously, what do they not understand about censoring the internet is BAD!
But yeah, hopefully no one (or very few) will be convinced by their upcoming BS ads. Hope the organizations against it can come up with just a strong counter-attack during this reprive.
All Will Know The Wonder Of My Dark & Jewled Sky, When All The World Is Wrapped In An Eternal Lullabye.
Are they?
Do they honestly think that those AD campaigns will change the publics oppinion? Everyone know's that the ADS are completely false just like photoshopped makeup adverts or products which are meant to change your appearance or complextion. I doubt the public will believe anything they put up. But we might be wrong there i really hope not though.
"I think it’d be a great honor to be able to influence someone’s joy."
@Rainie: I hear yeah.
Also kind of ranty here but... One of the things that has continuously worried me about laws like SOPA, PIPA, ACTA, etc. Is that i've wondered how such laws would affect fan works. I mean for some reason some people think you either have to chose between protecting copyright or protecting free speech, thats just not true, you can protect both, and honestly both should be protected, but im getting of track. Anywho yeah I love looking at fanworks, fan comics, fan art, fan fics etc. And while im sure laws like this don't affect them, over time they could have, and that would have been bad. I mean most of the net is user/fan generated content. So again while these laws don't specifically touch on such works, it does make one worry that if a law ever passed, if it would hamper the creativity of fanbases? (note this of course excludes fan-subs since those are indeed breaking copyright law, and are not creative at all no matter how many curse words the fans put in to try to make the show more "Adult" lol.)
All Will Know The Wonder Of My Dark & Jewled Sky, When All The World Is Wrapped In An Eternal Lullabye.