No more Kodocha. Ever. Same as Detective Conan series.
That is a real shame and rather short sighted imho. Kodocha was immensely popular in Japan, and has a loyal following here. The reason it did not do well is because of a combination of misfortunes.
1] LACK OF ACCESSIBILITY: I stumbled upon Kodocha completely by accident when channel surfing. It was being carried on Colours tv, which was a developing channel (only carried by one provider at the time, so far as I am aware), and aimed at an Indian-American audience. Not very mainstream. The ONLY other way you could see it, is if you had Time Warner cable and a subscription that included the Funimation channel, which itself was still developing, and had no other carriers (that I was able to identify). This created an extremely narrow slice of the public which was able to watch it.
2] LACK OF PROMOTION: I have no idea how it was marketed, or IF it was. But I can tell you that I never saw a single advertisement for it anywhere other then on Funi when the show was already being run. If you want people to buy it, try advertising it.
3] UNDERESTIMATION OF TARGET AUDIENCE: I was speaking to a Funi production staff member about the show, and they mentioned that they didn't see any market for it beyond teenage girls. This seemed ironic since she was saying this to a middle aged man who professed to be a fan. This was discussed at some length on the old Funi forums, and as it turns out, many of the people interested enough to discuss it on those forums were NOT teenage girls!
4] FAILURE TO MAKE USE OF AVAILABLE RESOURCES: There were many avid fans on the old Funi forums, who loved the show, and had ideas for everything from proper marketing to fan-funding the remainder of the series. This following continues to grow well after the series was cancelled. The problem here? Those in the company who could have made use of this wonderful FREE resource offered by the fan base, did not interact on the forums, or were altogether unaware of them. One of the people involved in the production of Kodocha looked at me dumbfounded when I mentioned the forums and had to get me to email him a link. Again, imho, this is NOT a sign of good management when you neglect the interests and input of your market audience, and fail to keep the staff informed of their existence.
5] FAILURE TO ACQUIRE PR-EXISTING AUDIENCE: Those who had followed the show in Japan, and were interested in seeing it rebroadcast here, were greatly disappointed that Funi was unable to obtain the rights to the theme song. Admittedly, this was not Funi's fault, but those who had identified the show with its theme for decades, now felt let down and detached from the American version.
If Funimation was interested in making some money off of Kodocha, then they should try and PROPERLY re-market the portion of the series that they currently have rights to. Now that they have a broader following on the web and elsewhere, the show dearly deserves a second chance to produce more sales dollars. It wouldn't hurt to broaden the selection of collectibles associated with it either. I have to order all my stuff from overseas. There was quite a lot of good quality stuff merchandised in Japan when the series was originally aired. I even have a functioning reproduction of the camera Sana used for her blackmail photo. I spent $300 for it plus shipping and insurance. That money could have been Funimations if they were smart about it. I wonder how much more the rest of you guys would spend on the show given the chance.
If i had the money man. Buy FUNI, keep entirety of the staff, and i'd be buyin the rights to kodocha, along with showering the mangaka of Furuba with gifts and pleeds of more furuba a devout remake to the manga too. I need money! How much is FUNI! XD And what does that lady want? XD
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"I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you."
You know what they say about you choosing your friends? It's a lie. You don't really choose them, they just happen.
"I'm not short! >.< I'm funsized. ^-^ "
"Don't piss me off! I'm in a bad enough mood without your help!"
Aaaaaaaaah thiz is so not fair I really really want season 3&4 I hav the other 2 n its such a let down not to get to see the rest I meean sub just arnt the same ........
im a huge fan of kodocha.the show was amazing( well the first half).it made me laugh so much because it was so funny.i would love to see the other half of the show(the 3 & 4 seasons) in the english version. when its subbed its hard to watch since you have to read the words at the bottom along with playing attention to the show.its more enjoyable when you can understand what the people are saying. and the voices of the characters seem so perfect so other voices now just seem out of place when watching the dubbed version. many other people like the show kodocha too.s
I think the series kodocha should be remade and follow the manga more closely,
just like they did with full metal alchemist,
they made a newer version of the series ( Full metal alchemist brotherhood ) and it become very successful.
if kodocha were to be remade,
which i highly doubt it would,
i believe that the fans would be happy and support the series no matter what,
since the original anime was half dubbed and half limbo,
the manga was very different from the anime series, since the endings weren't the same,
and that left the fans in suspense.
It's such a shame that they didn't finish the rest of Kodocha. It was one of my favorite animes of all time. I hope they bring it back for all the Kodocha fans.
As much as I agree with the idea of contacting the offical makers of it, I also know that such petitions are overall useless. If we want the 2nd half dubbed maybe WE fans should do it our selves as a show of force to them that we indeed DO want the series to continue, While not perfect at it I do do a decent Akito Hayama voice..If everyone pulls together for this we can dub it our selves sort of, I have ALL episodes in English and also ALL episodes in Japanese with English subtitles (which are removable) Dubbing would be simple, Simply read the subs and just say what they say and incert the audio into that character. If we do this I think they'll start to take notice XD.
That is a real shame and rather short sighted imho. Kodocha was immensely popular in Japan, and has a loyal following here. The reason it did not do well is because of a combination of misfortunes.
1] LACK OF ACCESSIBILITY: I stumbled upon Kodocha completely by accident when channel surfing. It was being carried on Colours tv, which was a developing channel (only carried by one provider at the time, so far as I am aware), and aimed at an Indian-American audience. Not very mainstream. The ONLY other way you could see it, is if you had Time Warner cable and a subscription that included the Funimation channel, which itself was still developing, and had no other carriers (that I was able to identify). This created an extremely narrow slice of the public which was able to watch it.
2] LACK OF PROMOTION: I have no idea how it was marketed, or IF it was. But I can tell you that I never saw a single advertisement for it anywhere other then on Funi when the show was already being run. If you want people to buy it, try advertising it.
3] UNDERESTIMATION OF TARGET AUDIENCE: I was speaking to a Funi production staff member about the show, and they mentioned that they didn't see any market for it beyond teenage girls. This seemed ironic since she was saying this to a middle aged man who professed to be a fan. This was discussed at some length on the old Funi forums, and as it turns out, many of the people interested enough to discuss it on those forums were NOT teenage girls!
4] FAILURE TO MAKE USE OF AVAILABLE RESOURCES: There were many avid fans on the old Funi forums, who loved the show, and had ideas for everything from proper marketing to fan-funding the remainder of the series. This following continues to grow well after the series was cancelled. The problem here? Those in the company who could have made use of this wonderful FREE resource offered by the fan base, did not interact on the forums, or were altogether unaware of them. One of the people involved in the production of Kodocha looked at me dumbfounded when I mentioned the forums and had to get me to email him a link. Again, imho, this is NOT a sign of good management when you neglect the interests and input of your market audience, and fail to keep the staff informed of their existence.
5] FAILURE TO ACQUIRE PR-EXISTING AUDIENCE: Those who had followed the show in Japan, and were interested in seeing it rebroadcast here, were greatly disappointed that Funi was unable to obtain the rights to the theme song. Admittedly, this was not Funi's fault, but those who had identified the show with its theme for decades, now felt let down and detached from the American version.
If Funimation was interested in making some money off of Kodocha, then they should try and PROPERLY re-market the portion of the series that they currently have rights to. Now that they have a broader following on the web and elsewhere, the show dearly deserves a second chance to produce more sales dollars. It wouldn't hurt to broaden the selection of collectibles associated with it either. I have to order all my stuff from overseas. There was quite a lot of good quality stuff merchandised in Japan when the series was originally aired. I even have a functioning reproduction of the camera Sana used for her blackmail photo. I spent $300 for it plus shipping and insurance. That money could have been Funimations if they were smart about it. I wonder how much more the rest of you guys would spend on the show given the chance.
If i had the money man. Buy FUNI, keep entirety of the staff, and i'd be buyin the rights to kodocha, along with showering the mangaka of Furuba with gifts and pleeds of more furuba a devout remake to the manga too. I need money! How much is FUNI! XD And what does that lady want? XD
"I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you."
You know what they say about you choosing your friends? It's a lie. You don't really choose them, they just happen.
"I'm not short! >.< I'm funsized. ^-^ "
"Don't piss me off! I'm in a bad enough mood without your help!"
im a huge fan of kodocha.the show was amazing( well the first half).it made me laugh so much because it was so funny.i would love to see the other half of the show(the 3 & 4 seasons) in the english version. when its subbed its hard to watch since you have to read the words at the bottom along with playing attention to the show.its more enjoyable when you can understand what the people are saying. and the voices of the characters seem so perfect so other voices now just seem out of place when watching the dubbed version. many other people like the show kodocha too.s
I think the series kodocha should be remade and follow the manga more closely,
just like they did with full metal alchemist,
they made a newer version of the series ( Full metal alchemist brotherhood ) and it become very successful.
if kodocha were to be remade,
which i highly doubt it would,
i believe that the fans would be happy and support the series no matter what,
since the original anime was half dubbed and half limbo,
the manga was very different from the anime series, since the endings weren't the same,
and that left the fans in suspense.
It's such a shame that they didn't finish the rest of Kodocha.
It was one of my favorite animes of all time. I hope they bring it back for all the Kodocha fans.
For anyone who would like to see Kodocha season 3 in english trhen go to www.petitiononline.com/html/petition.html .
kodocha is the best anime ever i don't like any other as much as this 1 can't belive it wasn't that popular=(
As much as I agree with the idea of contacting the offical makers of it, I also know that such petitions are overall useless. If we want the 2nd half dubbed maybe WE fans should do it our selves as a show of force to them that we indeed DO want the series to continue, While not perfect at it I do do a decent Akito Hayama voice..If everyone pulls together for this we can dub it our selves sort of, I have ALL episodes in English and also ALL episodes in Japanese with English subtitles (which are removable) Dubbing would be simple, Simply read the subs and just say what they say and incert the audio into that character. If we do this I think they'll start to take notice XD.
i agree with Paul Spain. how would we conduct something like this?