So this is a vent thread, recent occurrences have caused me to become cranky so one of the healthy ways to deal with it is to vent and have a b!tch session followed by a hearty meal.
Everyone is welcome to vent their frustrations about gaming. Do realize, this isn't like the "gaming going downhill thread" this is a thread to vent about various things in relation to or in regards to gaming.
So, as always, I will start:
1) Snarky/snobby video game store employees - a very general term, there are some good people, but across the board I really hate dealing with these a$$holes. They'll scoff when you go to buy that Soul Calibur or DOA fighting game; "yes, I like these games, is there an issue? Yes, I'm not into Fallout, Halo, or COD - I'm not saying they're bad, I'm just not interested in buying and playing those games."
Then they lie. They lie. They lie through their teeth, they make up policies that don't exist, they tell you some line of BS to get you to leave them alone so they can continue to get paid talking and gaming while the one good salesmen is doing all the putaway and customer service. I know they lie, I used to work in gaming, I've caught people doing it, I've actually chased down customers to explain the way things really are, and they look at you like they're a starving person and you gave them a generous meal.
Yeah, I can't have the cardboard stands because policy states you aren't allowed - when you told me last week to just be in the area when you guys are throwing it out and I get it.
This is why the last game I purchased - Dead or Alive 5 was ordered online - so I don't need to deal with these f%cktards.
2) While I hate dealing with people in game stores (or people in general for that matter, I'm a bit of a misanthrope) online ordering is not without problems; my recent order for DOA 5 is having complications to put it nicely. The UPS delivery service came yesterday - when I was at work and left me a tag that they will attempt delivery again today. So, I took one of my extra vacation days to stay home and wait, because there’s nobody else here during the day.
First of all, even though I work evenings, what are thinking trying to deliver at 3:00pm, nobody's home at that time, or at least most people generally speaking. Secondly, with the tag I have stating there will be another delivery attempt today, this has not occurred; they're late, the time allotted on the cart was from 10:00am - 2:00pm - it's 6:00pm now, I've waited around for a while and called their service line three times and they tell me it's on the way.
Bear in mind, it's not that I'm anxious to play the game, it's because I gave up a day off to make sure I was here for the package so that I don't have to drive out to some out of the way warehouse across the city.
3) How gaming has become "cool" now. Everyone games it seems, it used to be an underground thing in arcades where people would spend their allowances getting good at certain game and learning the moves. People used to be more competitive in gaming, and outsiders looked at them like freaks - hey, anything to keep "those" so called normal people out. It was something to do that was fun for people who weren't interested in sports or being the popular person. And it was these people that built it to what it is now. With gaming being more accessible and more people getting in on it the results:
a) rude lippy people in online gaming - I watched one of my old friends play Xbox live - all I can say is that there are some sore losers out there.
people seem unaware that with online gaming, you need to play the game beforehand and get good at it, then when they go online and they suck people tell them to practice and then they get mad those online people, then they wonder why nobody wants to play with them. Bottom line, like anything else, you have to earn a certain level of credibility, respect or some sort of positive reputation if you want others to take you seriously. This transcends everywhere - even on this forum here, it's something I have noticed.
4) Anita Sarkeesian - I really don't like this person, and I'm ashamed she's Canadian. First of all, he's smug and arrogant, not to mention somewhat obnoxious. I watched some of her videos for my last GS class and like everything, I give it a fair try, and at first I was okay, but then started to become more annoyed which grew to being outright offended (which I will touch on the why in a bit) and I swear - she thinks EVERYTHING is misogynistic - commercials, music, shows, movies, video games, ads etc. Yes, I can watch anime and movies and play games through my misandry detecting goggles but then - why? I partake in these endeavors for enjoyment and entertainment, I know they're not real and most importantly - I have nothing to contribute.
Now her ability to detect sexism even when it is borderline non-existent, and avoiding carrying the same thought process over to how it applies to the male gender in the same way is crafty, so crafty it's admirable. Now, that's fine, if people want to hate on something or cut it up, whatever, the rest of us will keep on trucking along, but hating on something is not enough for people like this: they want to barge into a community that has stood a certain way for years and change it.
Now, here's where I stared to feel offended by this person's videos; rather than adapting to how it is now, they want it to adapt to them, now I can understand wanting things to be more user friendly for certain people, but when these people have not contributed anything to the community or earned their seat to voice what they feel should be done - say creating a game, or new software or some sort of crafty online innovation, or even just being the best player at something beating out everyone else, but they haven't.
So, if they want to change the gaming industry, that's fine, but the answer is to make/create their own game to market and sell to the public, and if it does well(which it will as long as the gameplay experience is enjoyable - then, they'll have earned the respect and their place to come in and change things in the industry, and this would be through their franchises - in others words, they produce a good quality product in their vision, and make some good sales on it, and that way they're not barging into the community demanding - they could and should create a new game in their vision and as a side effect with that; their own space in the community without disrupting everyone else, that's why it's called the free market, choice is a wonderful thing.
So, I feel they have no right to barge in and start commanding others to adapt to their wants - this isn't a matter of "preserving male space" because it never was exclusively a "male space" - it happened to fall that way; everyone has always been welcome to try gaming, but you had to be good, you had to prove yourself and earn respect from your peers, so it's a matter of principle. I can't go to a job and because I don't get how everything works the first day, try to change everything the way I want, that's not how the world works, and these people seem to lack that understanding. So, that "free choice" in the market; lost because a handful of people disapprove of certain games and the run of the mill gamer.
Don't get me wrong though, there are sexist a$$holes everywhere you go, both male and female, misogynistic and misandric, hypocrisy, trolling etc. - and gaming is no exception to having these, it would be much nicer to avoid these behaviours, or people who endorse and/or act on them.
But, people still need to prove themselves in games - if you suck, you suck, and you will be ridiculed regardless of your gender. I have not experienced it first hand, but I sat and watched my some of friends a few times in their online gaming times. One of them even had to sit and listen to their guild manager or boss or master (I don't know the term) on WoW chew out the team because they screwed up on one level. Or one of my friends on Xbox live was playing a Halo game and I remember him and his team getting mad at one guy asking him "what the f%ck are you doing?" And after the game they told him - "go practice, learn the game, get good, then you can come play with us again, there will always be a spot." So the community is harsh, it always has been, but some guy are willing to give others a second chance, that's how it's been, it's not a question of discrimination in any way.
I'm not writing a manga or an anime, or a movie, I'm a not a game programmer, I may critique these things in relation to my enjoyment level of the products, as I do here about anime, but as someone who hasn't actually done anything in terms of create something for, let's say, anime; I have absolutely no right to smugly and arrogantly command the industry write certain kinds of anime, portray males and females a certain way, nor do I possess the authority to tell Funimation how to dub their products etc. - put in simple terms:
I have not earned the right or authority to infringe upon, or impose my personal views or agendas on the creative aspects of these arts; in other words, I know my place, perhaps some of these other people should too.
4) Lastly, people who fail to understand that different people like different games, some people like shooters, or racers, or fighters, or RPG's whatever - as I've said with anime, (so I won't need to repeat myself) people need to respect each other's choices.
So, with that, if there's anything you hate about gaming, be it past, present or future; this the place to vent.
And once again - I made another long post, hope you like it.







That was another beautiful post. I need to visit the games section of the forums more often, XD.
Also the thing I hate the most about Video games, even more then the modern fanbase/community
Personally I care less & less about video games as I get older, only things I still keep up with are the few series I still care about like the Kingdom Hearts series and the various JRPG's NISA puts out especially the Disgaea franchise.
Other then that i usually just download old titles VIA PSN & play those for awhile.
And i'm probably one of the few people that has always played their handhelds more then their consles, I still LOVE my PSP (although I do really want a VITA) and enjoy my 3DS so far.
But yeah, not much a gamer these days overall and the modern industry & community gives me very little reason to be.
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@Soundmonkey44 - Yeah, I've never been big into gaming, I have a very narrow amount that I play, but part of that is because I'm not heavy into shooters or racers or even RPG's - and they make up a majority of the games sold.
It's mainly that I get motion sickness playing these games, I mean, they look great, they look fun, but I physically can't play them. But I think that's a good thing, I bought three new games this year and very little time to play them. I've mentioned how much time I put into LPCS and SC5 and I finally got my DOA 5 yesterday which I played for about an hour - it looks and plays awesome BTW, but I probably won't get the time or motivation to play until I have my "staycation" in the first week of January - which I'm really looking forward to - lot's of bass playing, watch some of that new anime and yes, play those couple of games.
Not only that, but I want to revisit DOA2 for my PS2 - there's a song I want to unlock - and I want to revisit Tenjho Tenge, it's been forever since I've watched that, and I remember many of the scenes and how goot it is. Anyways, I'm staying off abit here.
Anyways - the catalyst for motivin me to make that thread was me waiting around Thursday for my UPS package (DOA5) which I used one of my vaction days on - on short notice from my super mind you only to have it not show up; so I thought about which of the two evils is lesser - waiting for an inefficient delivey service? or dealing with elitist sycophants in a Gamestop or EB Games? Then I came across one of my old essays from one of my GS courses - add my diminishing patience and the result is that post right there.
Anyways, I'm glad you read it and liked it, I think you're one of the 3- 5 people that actually reads my posts, and I appreciate that.
I thought that your rant was actually rather well thought out. I suppose there is no need for me to bitch as you hit many nails on the head, so to speak.
What really resonated with me was the comment you made about gaming being “cool.” I actually think that some of the classics are better than a great many of the new releases but I tend to be the type of person who shys away from something simply because it is popular (whether or not this is a good thing is certainly up for debate).
Concerning the point about respecting people's choices, bravo. Ultimately, when it comes down to it, I play games, watch anime, read books, or whatever to be entertained and/or because such media explores a particular topic that I find interesting. I get extremely annoyed when something is popular and you are proverbially lynched merely because you point out something you didn't like or whatnot. There is often no room for reasonable discussions; all some people know how to do is make accusations and call names. Sadly, though, this is something that seems to be present in a good many venues. It seems to me that the more popular something becomes, the more one has to conform.
I won't even get started about how UPS always seems to deliver things to my door when I am not at home. If I had a penny for every time that has happened to me, I would be considerably wealthy (okay, perhaps this is a slight exaggeration).
Finally, I get tired of game makers hyping their games in such a way that they can never reasonably deliver. It seems like a lot of the hype is just fluff with no real substance.
Okay, I guess I've summed up several of your points so I'll stop here.
Probably a bit off topic, but anyone else notice that despite the fact they aren't nearly as big into games as they were they still get excited for E3 every year!? I know I do...guess old habits die hard XD.
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Heh it's weird, I'm almost on the opposite spectrum Sound, I'm just as much if not more so into gaming now and I care less about E3 then I did when I was younger... then again most of the announcements I care about come from NISA press releases or talking with the employees at Gamestop (I know it's not the norm but my Gamestop is staffed by pretty awesome people, told me about Catherine and Tales of Graces before they were on my radar, then again it's the regional training center for managers).
Excellent post Neon. Can't believe I didn't see it sooner, but then again I rarely come to the gaming forum.
I've never run into any problems with employees when I want a game. The guys at my local game store are super nice and helpful, even recommending games based on the ones I've purchased and asking what I think of games I've played that they haven't (happened with Fire Emblem, the guys hadn't tried it out yet but were interested when I bought Radiant Dawn).
I don't play online (personal preference, I just don't see the appeal), and my game choices are also rather narrow, though I'm willing to try different games. Shooters tend to give me motion sickness, and most racing games are boring (Mario Kart is pretty much the only one I play regularly). My preferences are for action/adventure and strategy turn-based games. I've been playing games pretty much my whole life, but never too seriously. It's always just been something fun to do.
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I noticed this is a quieter area, but, in all fairness, it's an anime forum, so our collective priority here is to talk anime, so, I understand the reasoning why this thread has not gotten too much traffic - this area of the forum is sort of like, a break from all that, and as I mentioned earlier, I made my rant from a string of events related to gaming and I was just blowing off some steam; in a systematic, essay format, sort of way.
You know, I found the issues I have with game stores don't occur in the smaller chain or independent places - a new shop called "Play N Trade Games" opened up nearby - I went there for some PS3 controllers and the people there were quite nice - immediately greeted and asked if I was looking for anything etc. The layout was very nice - I find the Gamestop and EB Games are somewhat depressing in the way they look - maybe that's why the people working there are so difficult.
Yeah, I'm not much of an online guy - since I got DOA5 and I go to play it, I do get the rare invite to play from someone online, so I take a few minutes and have a match, otherwise, I'm pretty solitary.
And yes - as I've said, shooters really do a number on me with the motion sickness - I've actually vomited on more than one incident just from watching people play these games - which sucks, because those games look like a real blast. But, whatever, can't be helped - no use crying over spilled milk I guess.
Yeah, I had maybe one or two bad experiences with GameStop, but only during the holidays and the line was long (and it was a problem with the customers rather than the employees). It's under a different owner now, but boy is it a tiny store. The people that work the new shop are very helpful, too, but there don't seem to be as many people going there anymore. They specialize almost entirely in old games and systems. Local store has better prices and selection though, and they'll look through all of the games they have in back if you can't find what you're looking for on the chance that they just got a copy in and it isn't in the computer yet.
I've never felt that the layout's depressing with GameStop, but it does feel a bit cramped. It's probably because of how they arrange things since my local store has more stuff and roughly the same amount of space yet it feels much more open and comfortable.
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@Firefly - I suppose it depends on the city somewhat - people here are dinks, I could go on a big rant about that, but, that would be, pointless.
The Gamestops, Eb Games, I find to be too open up here, lots of dead space, and layouts aren't too good either. I usually find in most of the stores, Gamesstop, EB, Futureshop, Best Buy, Walmart(not that I expect anything from them) the same snarky attitude.
Except for that Play N Trade I went to, it waspretty nice, and they do electronics repair too, stuff like iphones, ipads or ipods or preferred tablet, but I've only been there twice.
Anyways, where you are, maybe people are just nicer, I don't know.
In the days of yore when I had access to a large mall with an arcade, Electronics Boutique, and a Gamestop all within spitting distance of each other, I was a pretty avid gamer. We even had a Sam Goody on the other end for my anime and hell, back then my Gamestop actually sold it, too! Out of all those stores, I think the two game stores as separate entities were the better when it came to employees, but good people running a store makes as much a difference as does store policies so I suppose it still could have been bad for other people back then, too.
I still game, but my game purchases are few and far between and I tend to stick to Steam or...Walmart (at least there you can just ignore the employees since they ignore you, too).