YOUR ANIME VIDEO COMMUNITY
46 replies [Last post]
Katsura's picture
Offline
Rice Ball
Authenticated User
Joined: 03/16/2011
Posts: 142
Re: Serial Experiments Lain Blu-Ray Quality/Lack thereof

SpacemanHardy wrote:
@Rootsofjustice: If they did mention it on ANNcast, then at least FUNi is willing to acknowledge the issue. There have been people who e-mailed AoA weeks ago about the subtitle problem and haven't heard a thing to this day. hmm

because Aniplex are money grubbing pieces of turd who I wish would've left the business instead of Bandai. I would complain ad nauseum about Aniplex but this is a funimation forum.

St0ck wrote:
@Spaceman
AoA is a different company, and no sign subtitles on a dub track is a different issue then quality of video, I'd also bring up my anger that Sentai isn't releasing a JP dub of their Persona 4 BD release but it seems somewhat counter productive to bring it up here.

Sentai couldn't release a jp language track, the japanese owners wouldn't let the bluray rights go for it. The release would've been held up a year at least if they waited

Edited by: Shiroi Hane on 12/07/2012 - 1:39pm. Reason:
SpacemanHardy's picture
Offline
Rice Ball
Authenticated User
Joined: 05/21/2012
Posts: 173
Re: Serial Experiments Lain Blu-Ray Quality/Lack thereof

Katsura wrote:
because Aniplex are money grubbing pieces of turd who I wish would've left the business instead of Bandai. I would complain ad nauseum about Aniplex but this is a funimation forum.

Mah brother..... wink

Quote:
Sentai couldn't release a jp language track, the japanese owners wouldn't let the bluray rights go for it. The release would've been held up a year at least if they waited

And take a WILD GUESS which company was responsible for that.

I'll give you a hint: it rhymes with "Shmaniplex". dumb

___________________________________________

You WISH you were this awesome.

themp3000's picture
Offline
BECK Roadie
Authenticated User
Joined: 04/14/2011
Posts: 305
Re: Serial Experiments Lain Blu-Ray Quality/Lack thereof

Katsura wrote:
SpacemanHardy wrote:
@Rootsofjustice: If they did mention it on ANNcast, then at least FUNi is willing to acknowledge the issue. There have been people who e-mailed AoA weeks ago about the subtitle problem and haven't heard a thing to this day. hmm

because Aniplex are money grubbing pieces of turd who I wish would've left the business instead of Bandai. I would complain ad nauseum about Aniplex but this is a funimation forum.
St0ck wrote:
@Spaceman
AoA is a different company, and no sign subtitles on a dub track is a different issue then quality of video, I'd also bring up my anger that Sentai isn't releasing a JP dub of their Persona 4 BD release but it seems somewhat counter productive to bring it up here.

Sentai couldn't release a jp language track, the japanese owners wouldn't let the bluray rights go for it. The release would've been held up a year at least if they waited

----
Stupid messed up quote boxes.

As for the DRRR, Aniplex of America only ported the Japanese blu-ray discs for the DRRR bluray set. The DVDs they did in house at Aniplex of America/Bang Zoom. The fault lies with their parent company, Aniplex of Japan, for not using sign subtitles on the BD release over there (it does have the dub and a sub track) when they were present on the AoA DVDs. It's cheaper to author and port the discs from Japan than author and replicate them here. Bakemonogatari's BD box set in Japan and ours are virtually the same, same file names and content on disc, just with subs thrown on. Madoka Magica's blu-rays are just copy-pasted onto a blu-ray disc here, they had 2 eps per disc over there. It's pretty much the same thing. I think you can't really blame them on blu-rays since they are just using AoJ's discs in every single circumstance. Just cheaper and easier to do. But hey, please keep blaming Aniplex of America for saving money and giving us premium Japanese quality releases every single time. It's hilarious to watch and observe as you grasp at means to bash them.

Edited by: themp3000 on 12/07/2012 - 7:36pm. Reason:
___________________________________________

my dvdaf (anime, criterions, other) | MyAnimeList | Anime-Planet

St0ck's picture
Offline
BECK Roadie
Authenticated User
Joined: 02/21/2012
Posts: 353
Re: Serial Experiments Lain Blu-Ray Quality/Lack thereof

Katsura wrote:

St0ck wrote:
@Spaceman
AoA is a different company, and no sign subtitles on a dub track is a different issue then quality of video, I'd also bring up my anger that Sentai isn't releasing a JP dub of their Persona 4 BD release but it seems somewhat counter productive to bring it up here.

Sentai couldn't release a jp language track, the japanese owners wouldn't let the bluray rights go for it. The release would've been held up a year at least if they waited

Oh I understand the reasoning, was just trying to point out how it's odd to complain about people not complaining about an issue that has no relation to the thread. Still while I understand Sentai wants to find a solution that allows them to quickly push out a BD and appease the Japanese license holder's fear of reverse importation, the lack of a Japanese dub will mean I'm not interested.

@Themp:
I'll admit AoA is starting to win me over, I still find their prices to be too high but I was extremely happy with their Bakemonogatari release. I'm hoping to pick up Madoka and Nisemonogatari when it comes out.

___________________________________________


SpacemanHardy's picture
Offline
Rice Ball
Authenticated User
Joined: 05/21/2012
Posts: 173
Re: Serial Experiments Lain Blu-Ray Quality/Lack thereof

@themp3000 See, that's where you're wrong on a few things.

The bluray discs were NOT imported from Japan. They were pressed here in America. How do I know this? Because there is a sticker on the box that plainly says "Made in the U.S.A."

Now, it is true that they did use the same image file as the Japanese release, but this is much more of a hindrance than anything. Considering that it is an American-made product being produced predominantly for an English-speaking audience, there is absolutely no reason on this earth why they shouldn't have spent the extra time creating their own image file for the American release, with the on-screen text track (that had already been produced for the DVDs) added on.

It's funny that you mention the words "cheap and easy" in your defense of AoA, because in my mind, if they're going to charge us $150 for a SINGLE SHOW, then I don't want cheap and easy. For that price, I expect no less than absolute perfection. For that price, I expect Henry Goto & co. to get off their lazy asses and put out a quality release where I won't have to manually turn the subtitles on and off just so I can understand the conversation Izaya and Simon are having in Russian. The fact that they are taking the "cheap and easy" route and yet charging us three times as much as your typical FUNimation/Sentai release shows an IMMENSE level of laziness, lack of effort, and greed on Aniplex's part, and is pretty much a giant slap in the face to anyone wanting to watch the English dub of the series. It is a MAJOR design flaw in the bluray's production, and there is no excuse, NO EXCUSE, NO EXCUSE why it shouldn't be there!! I'm not the only one who feels this way either. Many people have tried to e-mail AoA's customer service about the issue, but as of yet no one from the company has returned a single response. Instead, they try to placate us with a cheaply assembled lunchbox that isn't even big enough to hold a standard-sized thermos in. angry

Meanwhile, FUNimation is offering us Lain in a bluray/DVD combo pack with a nice chipboard box and two art booklets, one of which is so big you can crack walnuts with it. It even has translated on-screen text, too. And they're giving us all of this for around 50 bucks. For that price, I can tolerate a little bit of banding. tongue

Also, I'm not grasping for reasons to hate Aniplex. They're giving me spades and spades of reasons to work with already. The only reason they're still in business is because "LOLMADOKA", because other than that many of their other releases have sold pretty pathetically. Henry Goto still hasn't learned his lesson from when he was running Pioneer/Geneon, and it's only a matter of time until history repeats itself and the same thing happens to AoA.

___________________________________________

You WISH you were this awesome.

St0ck's picture
Offline
BECK Roadie
Authenticated User
Joined: 02/21/2012
Posts: 353
Re: Serial Experiments Lain Blu-Ray Quality/Lack thereof

@Hardy
This is why it is impolite to bring up completely different issues which lead to a thread becoming derailed, it would have been better to bring up the topic of Drrr's subtitling in another thread so this one can stay focused on the original point. The entire reason for bringing up Drrr's subtitling issue was:

Quote:
And yet when Aniplex of America releases the bluray of Durarara!! without a subtitle track for signs and on-screen text - which is a HUGE design flaw for anyone wanting to watch the English dub - hardly anyone says anything. And the few who do are little more than "Aww, that's too bad...." and refuse to create any sort of stink over it.

And now you point out:
Quote:
Many people have tried to e-mail AoA's customer service about the issue, but as of yet no one from the company has returned a single response.

So at this point there is no reason to continue that in this thread.

___________________________________________


view counter