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I am wondering why did you not buy/preorder Vol. 6 of NHK when it was available? Since you missed out on it, you cannot demand FUNi to press more when they did said that the last ARM volumes would be limited.

If you really want it that bad, keep an eye on eBay and get it when it is available.

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You all seem to miss the point that this was a former Geneon title that Funimaton agreed to complete the series for. But instead of printing enough for everyone, they had a limited print and only a few got them. They are EXTREMELY hard to find and they were published less than a year ago. I don't want input from people telling me to suck it up. It's not unreasonable to ask for more prints of a title that is obviously still licensed, and seriously in demand because no one can find it and when it finally appears it gets bid up to insanely high prices. Does it matter how much it costs to print something if people want it? Maybe they should make a pre-order page for it and see if enough people want it to warrent a second run before you guys tell me to give up and go buy some set that I don't want. Unless you work for Funimation and have authority over their production, I don't want your insulting commentary. It's not me asking what I should do instead. Especially not in the rude manner Spaceman seems to favor. That would be like me telling you, "Oh, you want fresh food? Go eat this lower priced cardboard flavored canned stuff and be grateful you get it. You're so stupid to want something that you are willing to pay for." This is a question for FUNIMATION, who can answer professionally. Not the mannerless peanut gallery. (This is not for those of you who posted polite responses, however the point stands that it's still a question in the forum directed for "Got a question for FUNimation?" for a reason.)

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You do realize that the single DVD market from a series is pretty much dead and buried in the US right? You fall into such a very minor group of collectors its not even funny. To me it sounds like you are degrading the show and only the packaging is important. Plus the volume 6 dvd was released almost 4 years ago. That leads me to question if you didn't just pick up the old ADV stuff at a garage sale/used DVD shop. As someone suggested buy the save set, put it in a dvd case and print up the art. OR you could try calling funimation and ask about print on demand for it, but this option will be expensive and you would probably be better off hunting down a copy on amazon or ebay. I cannot fault someone for buying multiple copies to make money off people later on. No one seems to complain when they buy the new video game systems off of Amazon/Ebay at inflated prices due to people buying multiples of those. When I was in the army we had a saying "Suck it up and move on". I think that fits you quite well here. And besides if you wanted an answer to this you should have rephrased what you initially posted and the title of this thread.

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............ Oy vey, we got a tough one on our hands here, 2 pages of explanation by forum members and he still won't budge.

Listen Mav, I get where your coming from Ido, but your not looking at things from a logical standpoint. As already explained to you theres various reasons (economics, methods of distribution, how well a show will/won't did/did not sale, etc) to think about. Your compliant is understandable from a collectors standpoint, but its also completely insane & unrealistic.

Also calling other members a mannerless peanut gallery because they aren't giving you the answer you want, kinda childish don't yea think?

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Peanut Gallery? Is that what you call fellow member trying to help another member out? Geese whatever happen to the old days when you help a guy out and they just go "thanks form the help". Now we get the I'm not asking you for your Unprofessional help? Oh boy.

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Maveth wrote:
You all seem to miss the point that this was a former Geneon title that Funimaton agreed to complete the series for.

NHK was an ADV title, not Geneon.

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1) You're in a minor group of people that is looking for ONE SINGLE dvd. Why the hell Would Funimation spend money on a handful of people that missed out on original print run of singles that were done by ADV?

2) If you liked the damn anime so much, why didn't you buy it when you could? Don't complain if you didn't do what you could before the volume went OOP.

And yes, suck it up and buy the SAVE edition. At least buying that edition will support the company. And you can even fit it inside the art box of yours so you don't feel depressed about a slot still being there.

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@Maveth

I completely empathize with you, as a matter of fact, you're absolutely right; you do deservce that one missing volume of your set, and Funimation should play ball.

After all, you're a collector, I am one too, and we collectors are very anal retentive and detail oriented, you said your anime was a Geneon release yes? Which brings me to one minor issue here - let's say in a perfect world Funimation can provide you with what you want, as a collector, all factors play out in your favor - I don't know about you, but as an anal retentive collector my sense of vanity would impair my satisfaction; meaning, it would be pretty funny looking to have a dvd boxset with 5 DVD's with a Geneon logo on it and one Funimation DVD - kind of cheapens it, it's not authentic, it doesn't feel official.

So, my point being, even if Funimation did this for you, you still would not be happy, your best bet is to do some online hunting for that last volume, and sadly, you may end up paying more than you want to for it.

That's just the way the cookie crumbles man, factor in what everyone else has pointed out about the way it is, at the end of the day, no matter what, you won't be fully satisfied. I would say this is one of those drop it and leave it alone things.

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I just discovered how to quote. Not much for forums usually. I can direct the responses appropriately now, but previous posts were probably taken generally and they shouldn't be. Hence the ( )'s comment earlier.

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............ Oy vey, we got a tough one on our hands here, 2 pages of explanation by forum members and he still won't budge. Listen Mav, I get where your coming from Ido, but your not looking at things from a logical standpoint. As already explained to you theres various reasons (economics, methods of distribution, how well a show will/won't did/did not sale, etc) to think about. Your compliant is understandable from a collectors standpoint, but its also completely insane & unrealistic. Also calling other members a mannerless peanut gallery because they aren't giving you the answer you want, kinda childish don't yea think?

Childish? Maybe, but you overlook the tone of the answers. They were berating me for wanting a reprint of the singles, which I don't feel deserved mocking. I got upset and responded in a state of irritation. For that I'm sorry. Would they apologize? Somehow I'm skeptical. If I were stomping on something they loved, I'd be a bad guy, but it's okay if they do it to other people because they think we should all just take their word for it and live with second place. I'm not accusing everyone who commented of being mannerless. Just the ones who think they can make comments like "suck it up". It doesn't help answering in a way that is just flaming and of no relevance to my question.

Why didn't I get it at the time of release? Because my preorder was at a store... and they sent me an email saying it was canceled... and by the time I found out the only copies being distributed were selling online at a limited list of places, they were sold out already to those with online preorders. So I paid retail for a series that remains incomplete, and it didn't have to be. I'm not willing to call that money wasted just because they put out a box set. It's not even like it had a normal run. I'm not asking for them to reprint millions... just another short run for those that missed out the first time because of the physical stores' lack of fulfillment.

How is it not logical to want my having purchased and supported the series from the beginning to be honored? How is it unrealistic? Because everyone else didn't want to buy the series individually? Is that the hint that I shouldn't buy Funimation titles until they are dirt cheap? How does that support the industry? How is my being willing to fork over $30 for a single hurting Funimation? I bet if they set up a preorder for the singles in question with the understanding that it's in limited numbers, people would buy them. I actually liked the show enough to buy the series... and I think that accusing me of caring more for the packaging is unfair. If I cared more about the rarity of the print, then neon would be right... a reprint wouldn't satisfy me. I just want the box set I paid $100 for to support the industry to be complete. Just like all my other Funimation singles box sets were completed.

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@Maveth I completely empathize with you, as a matter of fact, you're absolutely right; you do deservce that one missing volume of your set, and Funimation should play ball. After all, you're a collector, I am one too, and we collectors are very anal retentive and detail oriented, you said your anime was a Geneon release yes? Which brings me to one minor issue here - let's say in a perfect world Funimation can provide you with what you want, as a collector, all factors play out in your favor - I don't know about you, but as an anal retentive collector my sense of vanity would impair my satisfaction; meaning, it would be pretty funny looking to have a dvd boxset with 5 DVD's with a Geneon logo on it and one Funimation DVD - kind of cheapens it, it's not authentic, it doesn't feel official. So, my point being, even if Funimation did this for you, you still would not be happy, your best bet is to do some online hunting for that last volume, and sadly, you may end up paying more than you want to for it. That's just the way the cookie crumbles man, factor in what everyone else has pointed out about the way it is, at the end of the day, no matter what, you won't be fully satisfied. I would say this is one of those drop it and leave it alone things.

I'm not sure if you're serious or not... but let's pretend you were even if you weren't.

First, Funimation didn't print their labels on them.. the only thing distinguishing them is that the UPC is different. I'm not as anal a collector that I buy two copies of everything and keep them sealed and preserved. I don't HAVE to have the original print.. if there even was one. I don't buy a series multiple times just to have one of each version. I buy them in the format I prefer.. I open them, I watch them. I take care of my stuff and someday, I might have to sell them to pay for my kid's college education or something... but I will have enjoyed them. Why would I want the Funimation version? Funimation picked up the series, so I support the company that owns the title. Simple.

I mistakenly said Geneon instead of ADV, but the fact is.. they did it with both companies and I get them mixed sometimes. Try finding a copy of Kyo Kara Maoh Season 2, volume 7. That one is a Geneon title, also short printed by Funimation. I have the entire series up to that one... and then anything distributed by Funimation after the liquidation is a nightmare to locate. Yes, I like special editions.. because they are usually packaged with cool stuff. That's the extent of my collector obsession. I prefer the singles.. because if I wanted to lend someone a volume.. and they lose it or one gets damaged to the point of uselessness, I don't have to rebuy the entire set to replace the single DVD.. and the harder it is to find the more anal I am about lending it. Thin packs are a source of annoyance, but I still buy titles they've printed since the end of singles. I just don't like them as much.

Unfortunately, like you all pointed out.. due to the disinterest of people buying the series volumes individually, pretty much they ended singles for life. I noticed that didn't stop them from printing limited editions, because there's a market for it. Catering to the collectors is lucrative or they wouldn't bother.

If I buy anything after market.. it's usually because I didn't discover the series until after it was out of stores or because they never had a reprint. My anime interests started with a promo of Fruits Basket I found in a SamGoody back in high school. It cost me $2 and contained two dubbed episodes. A Funimation title incidently. I had a job at McDonalds, not a lot of money to collect with, so it was slow going in the beginning. So you can imagine I had a lot to catch up on when I finally had the income and resources to find them. I didn't even have internet at home until after graduation, so most of my purchases were retail stores. When they don't have it, they don't have it.

I'm not going to cry because I can't get it.. but it's not going to make me give up searching for it. It certainly won't change the fact I'm requesting it. I won't be selling my singles and buying the boxset, even if the last volume remains missing. I just don't intend to rebuy something I already own most of. If I'm going to spend money for another box set, it'll be one I don't have. I don't think I'm being unreasonable, and until Funimation refutes it or tries to meet my request, I'm going to keep asking.

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Re: Funimation/ ADV Title Beef

OK this is just getting silly. I think this thread has served its purpose.

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