Hey Everyone,
Most of you probably understand what I mean by the "missing" scene in season 1, episode 6. Here's a long recap for those of you who didn't notice the missing scene at first:
Around 16:00 into the episode, Sousouke leaves Kaname and Kurz alone in the forest to go and set signal fires on the base.
As they talk, Kurz gets some kind of twinge in his back and falls down on his back, apparently paralyzed. Kaname kneels next to him and asks what's wrong.
To paraphrase, he says something like "I can't move a muscle. I'm supposed to be protecting you and I'm useless. If only there was something that would energize me, rouse me from this state..."
Meanwhile he's scanning Kaname's body. Her shirt is ripped halfway open down the front.
He says "if only there was something I could do that would energize me, restore my strength..."
Then we see one of Kurz's eyes, followed by one of Kaname's, pupils dilating. We hear Kaname gasp, and the scene ends.
Sousouke's mission to light signal fires is then shown. Kaname greets him when he returns to the hideout.
"Did you have any luck?" she asks.
He begins to respond, then notices Kurz lying on his face, looking as though he's fallen there.
"Kurz! What happened to Kurz?"
As he leaves Kaname's side to rush to Kurz, she has a despondent, frightened look on her face.
When he gets to Kurz's side, Kaname is shown with her back to him, head slightly turned so her mouth is showing. Now she has a sly grin on her face.
What follows in verbatim in both dubbed and subtitled versions. She says to Sousouke,
(Dubbed) "Oh, I think he'll be fine. He's resting his eyes after wandering all night."
(Subtitled) "I think he'll be all right. He'll live a long time. He's that type."
Sousouke again asks "What happened?"
She keeps her back to him, doesn't answer, and the scene closes.
Later, when the three of them are recalling the ending of "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid", Kurz remarks, "In that one, the heroine was kind to the flirty one." She smiles warmly at him. Needless to say, this is a little out of character for her. In any other circumstance she'd respond with a snide remark like "In your dreams" or something. Why the sudden friendliness?
End of recap.
All right, what did happen? And what's with the difference between her dubbed and subtitled responses? The dubbed response sounds like a lame excuse. The subtitled response, "He'll live a long time. He's that type," could be taken a number of different ways. What "type"? Masculine and seductive, arrogant and flirtatious, what?
Thus far I've found two theories in various places:
1. Kurz made a move on Kaname and she slugged him, knocking him cold.
2. Kurz made a move on Kaname and she complied to try to help him out of his paralysis. Now he's resting after a fantastic tryst with her (hence her frightened, despondent look when Sousouke first sees him lying there, then the sly grin when she responds).
Well? Any takers? Did Kaname and Kurz get it on before she ever became that close to Sousouke? Or, did Kaname knock Kurz unconscious, more in keeping with her character? And if she did slug him, why step out of character to give him that warm smile over being friendly to "the flirty" one?" Was she "friendly" to Kurz?
You may think I'm going overboard with this. You may be right.
On the other hand....
It's option 1.
My money's on that one too, but it's based on a preferential bias. In your case, why do you think it's option 1?
I suppose an even better question is why the episode doesn't answer the question itself. What's to hide? If she slugged him, why didn't she just answer Sousouke to that effect, such as
"He got fresh so I slugged him. He'll be OK".
Or, why didn't they show her slugging him, in her usual style with "perverts"?
Alan Mintaka
"I believe a leaf of grass
is no less than the journey-work of the stars"
--Walt Whitman
Well for one thing Kaname didn't like Kurz.
She seen his eyes wandering and knew if he had enough energy to get fresh he wasn't that bad off.
If she told Sagara well you know how he acts.
Last after watching all three series you would know Kaname Chidori is not that kind of girl.
1. If she didn't like him, why the warm smile when he said that the heroine in "Butch Cassidy" was kind to the flirty one?
2. Agreed.
3. If she did make it with Kurz, she'd have good reason not to tell him. If she only slugged him and told Sousouke, why would he do anything at all? Kurz was already knocked unconscious. If that was all she did, she'd have no reason not to tell Sousouke.
4. Under normal circumstances, she may not have been "that kind of girl". But in this scene they all thought they might die soon. Kurz appeared to be in big trouble. She was the type that liked to help people when she could.
Besides, on that last point, what do we really know about her? Under normal circumstances we certainly know that she's very choosey with men, doesn't like aggressive come-ons from casual acquaintances, obviously hates vile groping and voyeurism, has a healthy dose of self-respect.
But that doesn't mean she doesn't sleep with men she actually allows to get very close to her. We don't ever see the latter in the 3 seasons, so we have no idea what she'd do with a serious partner.
Of course Kurz is not a serious partner. But then again, he's a friend in bad trouble and the circumstances are far from normal. They may all die soon.
You say she doesn't like him. However I think it's more like she hates his behavior when he comes on to her, but likes him when he isn't being an idiot towards her. Case in point: that warm smile she gives him over the "Butch Cassidy" comment is a friendly smile, not dislike. And whenever he's in trouble, she has real concern for him.
Not showing what happened in the video, followed by her refusal to answer Sousouke, speaks to something other than a knockout punch.
Alan Mintaka
"I believe a leaf of grass
is no less than the journey-work of the stars"
--Walt Whitman
She smiled a him because in the movie analogy he referred to her as "the pretty heroine"
Re-watched the episode paraphrase
Kaname has vision tears off cloths, Kurz thinking BOOBS I have a plan!
Kurz: If only I had enough energy. *Stares down her open shirt.
Kaname worried gets closer
Kurz thinking CHANCE! I can almost see them
Kaname :gasp he's looking at my exposed breasts.
Kaname POW! during the unseen part
Sagara returns Kaname has jacket zipped to the top holding tight Kurz lying face down a$$ up in the mud( not a very erotic position- for a guy)
Sagara asks what happened she says "Oh, I think he'll be fine. He's resting his eyes after wandering all night." with a "I showed that perv grin"
parse her lines
"Oh, I think he'll be fine" cause all I did was slug him
"He's resting his eyes after wandering " - wandering eyes staring at ma boobs.
Good points. I didn't pick up on the "wandering eyes" allegory at first.
Remember, though, that the "wandering eyes" explanation is only in the dubbed version. In the subtitled version, she says something different:
"I think he'll be all right. He'll live a long time. He's that type."
What can it mean? It has nothing to do with "wandering eyes" and doesn't suggest Kurz checking her out in the same way. Something else happened. What?
Someone who speaks Japanese and English would have to tell us which version (if either) is closer to what she actually says in Japanese.
Also, notice the look on her face when Sousouke first leaves her side to go to Kurz. She looks really afraid. Why would she be afraid one second, then self-satisfied when she gives her response? What was she afraid of at first?
There are still oddities here: the fearful expression on her face when Sousouke leaves her side to go to Kurz, and the difference between the dubbed and subtitled versions of her response.
Alan Mintaka
"I believe a leaf of grass
is no less than the journey-work of the stars"
--Walt Whitman
Umm...there's no missing scene. Kaname punched Kurz when he peeked. It wasn't shown because (presumably) the editors thought the scene would be funnier if we didn't see her smack him. Simple as that.
I don't want to come in and spoil fun discussion, but I honestly don't understand what other meaning that scene could convey.
"Of course you realize, this means war!" -- Bugs Bunny
"Here we gooooo!" -- Mario
Other meaning: Kaname helped Kurz recover from his paralysis by having sex with him, or "servicing" him sexually. Obviously she wouldn't want Sousouke to know about that.
Remember the look of real fear when Sousouke first left her side to go to Kurz. If the situation was as simple as you describe, what was she afraid of? That Sousouke would notice something that suggested what she really did to Kurz, or.... what? Why the fear? What didn't she want Sousouke to know?
Her explanations in the dubbed and subtitled versions are completely different. Why? Her responses are ambiguous in different ways.
Finally, if it really was per your description, why wouldn't she just tell Sousouke what happened? It wouldn't exactly be news to him - he's seen her negative reactions to Kurz before.
In my first post, I said "You may think I'm going overboard with this. You may be right."
Alan Mintaka
"I believe a leaf of grass
is no less than the journey-work of the stars"
--Walt Whitman
Unquestionably. It's just a throwaway gag- you're supposed to be smart enough to infer that Kurz is a perv, and he looked at something he shouldn't have and paid the price.
Not boobs, upskirt.
... and get off my lawn!
Or fher gb qevax lbhe Binygvar!
@TIL Nobu
@AlanMintaka
Now if this isn't enough ti convince you she slugged him I don't know what will