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My Dragon Ball Pefect Edition Kanzenban Review and Dissection/Differences

Now that I own all 34 Dragonball perfect Kanzenbans I would really appreceate it if someone could provide me a list of coloured pages that wearn't retained in the VIZ Bigs so that I dont have to go through the ones I have already seen in the Z Viz bigs. Ah I will review some difference too..

Oh here's the pics...

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/kenzenbancomplete1.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/kenzenbancomplete2.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/kenzenbancomplete3.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/kenzenbancomplete4.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/kenzenbancomplete5.png/

Note: Images and comparsions will follow eventually of descripted and said scenes -Stay tuned

My thoughts:

Size - Each Kenzenban is slightly taller than the standard Tankoubon that VIZ preveously releaced but if it stands next to the 1st printings they seems almost similar in height.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/1size.png/

Feel - Each Kanzenban seems to have a newly drawn image by akira toriyama and best off all the image sorta sticks out so you can feel the outlines in it, hard to explain lol.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/404/2feel.png/

Unlike the VIZ big the inside first page is shiny sorta elaminated image cell of the chosen cover with a white background. While the VIZ big has a inverted colour black and white image of their chosen cover of Goku.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/3inside.png/

Contents layout - The Kanzenban displays the contends going down the page in green and then begins the chapter, unlike the VIZ Big which makes you have to read though the character profiles which tends to take up 9 pages from the first front page throughh the contents all the way till you read the final character profile page in total in order to get to the beginning of the chapter. (There are no character profiles info in the Kanzenban)

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/4contentslayout.png/

Quality: Now this is interesting to note the Kanzenaban has no particular edits to remove any missed ink lines like how the VIZ Big presents it. For example ya know how sometiems you see a part of a characters clothing or hair completely black with no white specks out un-inked bits at all. Well interestngly enough VIZ touched up this by making all areas of blackness fully black. The Kanzenban has white uncoloured bits on the black parts which shows how hard Akira tried to colour them in but missed alot of parts. Not really a big gripe but it feels more authentic seeing it this way!

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/192/5qualitybetweenkanzenba.png/

*Even more weird the VIZ big is taller than the Kanzenban and even the pages of the Kanzenban seems different to the VIZ Bigs white bright pages, yes the kanzenban retains the yellow creamy colour that the old publications had. I dunno why this is, its like VIZ scanned them and put them into their book 0_0*

Censoring: This is surprising to say the least the Kanzenban is completely uncensored so all the middle fingers, nipples, wee wees, and Satans name are still there. (Looked through a few issues)

Ones in particular are these mostly

[Key - Left/Kanzenban & Right/Viz Big/Manga]

Extra note: Because I am so generous I have added each image side by side if possible in portrait, due to this sadly couldn't be done in single images off the camera... so you can be rest assured you wont have to click on two different links to compare the images, these are back to back comparisons. The only ones which are seperate are the landscape ones. Happy viewing and remember to post feedback.

- Sincerly dblibruary

DB Kanzenban VS VIZ Big Comparisons
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- The Puff Puff scene that Oolong has a fantasy about while still in his human male like form in DB, the girl has nipples but in the VIZ editions they are edited.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/6dboolongspuffpuffscene.png/

- Bulmas nipples appear in the Kanzenban when she is having a shower VIZ cenored this.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/810/7dbyamuchasshowerencoun.png/

- Nothing too special about Bulmas gesture to Pilaf being there cause some Viz editions left it in others change it to another finger.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/8dbbulmasgesturetopilaf.png/

- Kuririn pulling Bulmas shirt down to give Roshi a nose bleed, yes she aint wearing anything, same goes for early uncensored VIZ red dragon books, later editions gave her a bra. *Not own DB VIZ BIG so Kanzenban only together with...

Yamucha flipping off Tenshinhan in a pannel, this was left in the older red dragon VIZ books and earlier red ones too, but was edited away fist and all in newer versions.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/9dbkanzenbanonlyexclusi.png/

DBZ Kanzenban VS VIZ Big Comparisons
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- Gohans wee wee is retained in the Kenzenban when he turns back from an Oozaru while viz edited it completely away. All other instances of it are only found in the Kanzenban too as VIZ removed any trace of it.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/836/10noweeweesallowedforgo.png/

- The pannel of all the Z warriors flipping off imperfect cell is in the Kanzenban in colour while the Viz Big and Z Manga edit them into fists.

Kenzenban - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/11dbzkanzenbanssceneofw.png/

VIZ BIG - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/204/12dbzvizsceneofwarriorg.png/

- The announcer next to Mr. Satan flips perfect cell off with his finger in the kanzenban while Viz made it appar that he was sticking his tounge out but left his fist clenced so something seemed off.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/13dbztheannouncersgestu.png/

- Once the Trunks returns to his timeline after cells defeat by Gohan, the Kanzenban shows 17 shooting the old mans chin with the gun, VIZ edited it into a fist.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/14dbzfuture17shootstheo.png/

- Herculpolis is called Satan City again in the Kanzenban and his name is Satan as well as all the instances his name appears thoughout the Cell arc.

The city name - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/23/15dbzsatancityandhercul.png/

The bank name - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/403/16dbzsatancityandhercul.png/

- To show Toriyamas hatred for Buu in Mr. Satans mind made a panel of him saying he was gonna beat the living crud out of him, little did you know he was flipping off in the pannel with his fist in the Kanzenban. While VIZ changed it into a fist.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/690/17chapterpageofwhatmrsa.png/

- The cruel killers who shooten the elderly couple in the Kanzenban used a sniper rifle, VIZ changed it to a lazer and blaster.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/18shootingpracticeonane.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/411/19shootingpracticeonane.png/

- After that we see them shooting inocent cervilians for target practice in the Kanzenban using bullets from their firearms, VIZ once again changed these to lazers.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/8/20shootingpracticeonciv.png/

All pannels seem different even when Bee is shot due to the change between a tazer weapon or lazer and a bullet, as seen in this scene all the blood is edited away while in the Kanzenban its all there.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/21beegetsshot.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/22beegetsshot2.png/

- After Bee is shot the gunmen go on a all out assult on Mr. Satan and Boo. Alot is changed here in these comparison pannels so much as so it's one of the most edited scenes in all of the Dragonball manga that VIZ did as opposed to the uncensored Kanzenban!!!

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/23heavyartilaryassaulto.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/710/24heavyartilaryassaulto.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/266/25heavyartilaryassaulto.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/26heavyartilaryassaulto.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/256/27heavyartilaryassaulto.png/

- After the assult has subsided and Bee gets healed, Mr. Satan gets shot through the chest in the Kanzenban while the VIZ BIg edits it to look like he has been zapped by a tazer or lazer removing all blood spatering out of him.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/208/28mrsatangetsshot.png/

- To pay for their crimes the Gunmen meet their end to Old Boo and Evil Boo both intend to try to kill him using gun fire but it is inefective against him as shown in the Kanzenban, Viz edited the bullets to lazers once again however they missed the edit when the fat gunman shot boo with his gun they even forgot to change the sound into a lazer!!

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/641/29oldbuuisinefectiveaga.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/30evilbooisinefectiveag.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/803/31evilbooisinefectiveag.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/32evilbooisinefectiveag.png/

- Super Gotenks flips off Buu in the timechamber after headbutting him in the Kanzenban, while VIZ changed it into a fist.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/33supergotenksgestureto.png/

- Super Buu flips off Veggeto after absorping him in the kanzenban, this was once again chaned into a fist by VIZ.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/34superboosgesturetosup.png/

- An interesting pannel in the Kanzenban of Son Goku giving a thumbs off to Vegeta after killing Kid Buu seems different to the VIZ squashed pannell?

Kanzenban http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/836/35kanzenbannewendingtok.png/

Kanzenban comparison to VIZ Big - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/97/36kanzenbancomparedtovi.png/

- The Extra ending is only in the Kanzenban the VIZ Big used the older one.

Kanzenban http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/525/37kanzenbanendingtothed.png/

Kanzenban http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/38kanzenbanendingtothed.png/

VIZ BIG http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/39vizbigendingtothedrag.png/

- Akira Toriyamas farewell message in the Kanzenban is omitted in favor of the added scene of Vegeta at the Tournament in the Kanzenban while Viz use the message under it instead but keep the coloured Goodbye pose from the Kanzenban.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/40toriyamasfarewellmess.png/

- Bonus images

Finally we are at the end of this dissection I have made, here are two rare images which VIZ may have altered without you expecting just to make the images more noticable they like to throw text onto the image ruining it to make it look cooler when it actually looks uncooler...

Bonus image Kanzenban to DBZ VIZ BIg 1 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/41bonusviztryingtomakec.png/

"Can they really pull it off" it seems an image alone isn't enough to show how it's gonna happen

Bonus image Kanzenban to DBZ Viz Big 2 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/42bonusviztryingtomakec.png/

"Awesome" the image of Gohan alone shows this but VIZ need you to really notice it I guess...

Final verdict - Is this the pefect Dragonball edition?

YES but I dunno if it would be to you, if you like the anime better than this wouldnt be for you but if you like owning it in paper back then yes it is.

And that's that. I hope this is both informal and helpful to show you how badly VIZ edited the manga and considuring there are no complaints or questions I take it this is perfect essential to you smile That make me happy ^_^

Here's hoping an uncensored Kanzenban comes out over there and if it doesen't then at least you'll have this guide to help you see what was changed the most

Sincerly - dblibruary

10/15/11

Edited by: dblibruary on 10/15/2011 - 4:12pm. Reason:
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Re: My Dragon Ball Pefect Edition Kanzenban Review and Dissection/Differences

Sounds like Toriyama was a big fan of the old one finger salute.

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Oh man, I really wish these were released in the US! They just look so good!

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Sounds like Toriyama was a big fan of the old one finger salute.

Which is weird cause I never knew there were so many gestures in the Dragonball manga until I now owned there, I was aware of the Bulma to Pilaf one, and the Pannel of the Cell one but the rest got me by surpise. Now I can never look the same way of the Dragonball manga I once read by VIZ it's like a completely different ball game!

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Oh man, I really wish these were released in the US! They just look so good!

And so the once guessed Kanzenbans in the U.S were shafted in favor of the VIZ Bigs, with the same script but retained a few colour pages in each volume. I wonder if VIZ will ever relaece these with an english accurate script but I hightly doubt it now...

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Re: My Dragon Ball Pefect Edition Kanzenban Review and Dissection/Differences

Thanks for your responces guys, I will edit this topic with the mentioned edits cause it is a dissection so no worries there is more to come. I will do the manga shots with my camera once I get back to my flat later today. All books are coming with me to my flat so I can replace the VIZ bigs place and older DB/Z manga editions with them cool

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All 34 Kanzenban mangas have been moved safely from my house to my flat and now are right under my Dragonboxes by Funi. Sadly volume 34 couldn't fit so it had to be placed ontop but the arrangement went pretty well...

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/kanzenbanonshelf1.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/kanzenbanonshelf2.png/

Also noticed that volumes 10 and 25 come with some hidden goodies of inserts, one which VIZ mentioned promoted a DBZ video game with artwork by Akira Toriyama. If you want I can take a pic of these said inserts and show you ^^

Volume 10 had - Insert of various mangas avalible on the Kanzenbans original run in Japan

Volume 25 had - A Jump summer pass ticket with events and such and a special DBZ 2 insert which VIZ mentioned promoted a video game, aswell as some gachapon figures avalible at that time too... even cooler is a hand drawn Son Goku and Piccolo concept by a DBZ fanartist (Not sure which one)

Oh B.T.W if you were wondering why some of my books wearn't showing up in my first 5 images it's cause the weight of them made my bed slump lol

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Guess you'll be getting that 7th Dragon Box too. Maybe Shenron will magically appear on the spine when all are collected

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Guess you'll be getting that 7th Dragon Box too. Maybe Shenron will magically appear on the spine when all are collected

It's quite frankly just plain yellow lol, and yes I will be getting the 7th Dragonbox soon... then I'll have the perfect Dragonball releace the way it was meant to be seen and the perfect manga edition to go with it ^^

Oh b.t.w I will be strarting the photo comparisons on the mentioned parts in my topic on Friday since I have to use my digital camera for a course at Uni I can't really use it's images for this for now lol. Stay tuned and keep watching cool

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Sorry for the delay Dragonball fans, I will start taking the image comparisons tomorrow... here's some pictures of the inserts which came with the volumes of the books I won to wet your appitite till tomorrow...

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/volume10insert.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/volume25insert1.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/651/volume25insert2.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/volume25insert3.png/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/volume25insert4.png/

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Just a heads up on my progress Dragonball fans, currently all images are almost taken, sadly my camera ran out of battery power when I got to the long picture comparsion between the Kanzenbans scene of the killers shooting people and bee and the assult on Satan against the VIZ Big one sad

There are so many differences on this chapter than I had to take one of the uncut and one of the edited version to compare for my friends tomrorow, they will most likely go side by side with the VIZ one yet I noticed it's harder to get a clear picture of a page with many images in different sections than it is with one in the whole page. But reguardless I took 3 of each and compared them and kept the clearest one out of those 3 I took.

Garunteed all the most important changes are there in the best quality possible of my camera, once my battery is charged I will continue to the end of what I said I would make a comparson for... this includes the extra ending not present in the VIZ big so you can see how it compares to the old one.

Stay tuned folks

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