I would bet anything TMS Entertainment or YTC asked them to. Funimation may not care about Case Closed, but they sure as hell care about their relationship with the Japanese producers. TMS is one of the oldest and most influential animation studios in Japan, and they definitely care about what happens to Detective Conan.
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Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you.
As long as you remember Her, you are not alone.
Renzokuken, do you know what FUNimation can do to make TMS really happy ¥_¥? Buying the rest of the Case Closed licences.
As one of the oldest and most influential animation studios TMS is more than capable of filing their own takedown request and as the original creators and actual copyright owner (rather than an affiliated licensee with copyright only to their own translation and dub), they are just as capable (if not more so) of doing their own dirty work. If TMS asked, FUNimation could have justified that the cost of their legal team's work would be more than the amount they're losing and shifted the burden back to TMS, etc, etc. Whether or not FUNimation was asked it was still their decision to act and so they are ultimately the target of the wrath of the fans.
DCTP was small fry compared to sites that are actually harming both FUNimation and TMS. Just type "watch anime" in any old search engine and you'll find plenty of them. One such site streams numerous FUNimation titles and gives rankings to the animes which are the most popular. Of the 1225 animes they are infringing on, Case Closed is ranked as the 9th most popular beating out Code Geass, Soul Eater, and Ouran. I tell you that Case Closed didn't get this popular from Adult Swim nor the 5 direct-to-DVD seasons FUNimation released ... and re-released. Those sites are the kinds of infringers FUNimation and TMS have more of a reason to be going after and not the fans that are just trying to revive a series which FUNimation has done their best to kill, twice, and given up on.
People getting mad at a company that has the legal rights to distribute a series closing down sites that distribute it illegally always make me lol.
I can fully understand the anger, but its overall just something that like everything else stems from modern mans undeserved since of entitlement. Just because the internet lets you have access to pretty much everything at the click of a button, doesn't mean you need or deserve it.
Funimaton had every right to shut down the site, just as they or any other company does for any other site that distributes media through illegal means.
As for how to get more Case Closed, READ THE MANGA, its Legally available in the U.S. from VIZ Media. And if thats still not good enough for you, well then just wait for Funi's license to expire and hope somebody else like D-tek, Nozomi, Sentai, etc picks it up and releases the rest sub-only.
But yeah, I understand the anger, but people need to realize how childish they are acting when they get mad at Funimation or any other company for taking down a site that really had no right to exist in the first place.
While I've given several different arguments against FUNimation's haneous act you've simply chosen to ignore them and bang the drum of illegality. I believe that is the only thing you can say; like a macaw that only knows the word "illegal". Are you so much of a Javert to even address my arguments? Who is the Neanderthal: the one who uses logic and reason, or the obtuse drum banger?
Rather than tell us customers that we don't need entrainment, to buy our anime from other companies, and to switch to reading manga; why don't you inform the people who actually make decisions about these things regarding the desires and arguments presented by the fans (hopefully you have the authority to do that or know someone who does). I'm also betting that FUNimation executives wouldn't appreciate their mods telling members not to buy FUNimation products since that is their bread and butter (because as you pointed out we don't need to buy their anime).
I'll appreciate how primitive your cave art is later.
@Sigerson: Now now, no need for name calling. First off
1. I don't work for Funimation, none (or I guess to be more accurate for uncertainties sake very few) Moderators do, we merely work the forums. The Admins are actual Funimation employees though.
2. I'm not telling you NOT to buy Funimation products, but whats the point in telling you to re-buy what little they did dub of Case Closed over & over hoping that will convince them to dub more. If fans want more the best legitimate way to do so is read the manga. Weather people decide to buy what Funimation releases or not is completely up to them, but yes just like any other member we mods have the right to voice our opinions about Funimation or anything else be they positive or negative.
3. Logic & Reason? Where is the logic & reason in theft or piracy be it physical or digital. Given there are extreme cases, like starving person X needs food item Y to survive, but were not talking about something like that, were talking about Funimation (possibly on behalf of TMS or such) in Japan shutting down a fan-site that had episodes of an anime that it had no right to be airing.
The fact is despite the original intent of fan-sub groups and pirates, there is no real legitimate reason to justify these groups actions, you can make arguments about how they are merely fans of the show, or they want to make it more well known, more well popular, etc. And thats all fine & dandy, but its not justification. See thats whats wrong with people these days, they get mad when they get something taken away from them they had no right to in the first place.
And again, I too am a HUGE Conan fan, I loved watching the show during its short stint on [Adult Swim] back in 04 (along with Lupin III) I bought all the season sets, all the movies, and all the manga volumes that have been released so far. So I can relate to your anger and dissatisfaction with Funimation's poor treatment of the series, I wish it had done better, I wish they were still dubbing it, or at the very least the rest of the movies and some of the OVAS/Specials. But you know what, sometimes we don't always get what we want. Its simple as that.
As for the web site Funimation closed down, i'm happy to know theres enough Conan fans out there to even make such a site, but again people really can't get mad when anime fan-sub/stream/torrent sites get shut-down because well, as said countless times, the companies despite what you may think about it, have the right to do so. Same goes for Manga-scanlations as well of course.
And on a final note,
A word to the wise, comparing someones intelligence to that of a caveman's nearly because you don't like/ disagree with what they are saying doesn't do much to help your stance.
I only brought Neanderthal because of your implication that "Modern Humans" weren't acting like modern humans. Yes it was over the top exaggeration but I was making a point. I stand by the Javert comment though because there is a difference between illegal and immoral. Alcohol was also illegal.
I argue that the fansubbers in no way harmed FUNimation or their sales of Case Closed and if anything helped them. Case Closed has topped the charts of the Amazon Best Selling animes numerous times and it didn't get there from those who watched Adult Swim given the low ratings.
You'll argue that translating any anime is illegal while I'll argue that in this case it is fair use because it passes the four-factor balancing test (and guess what we're both right).
I argue that even if it wasn't fair use (which it is) their translation work is small fry compared to the people that are actually harming FUNimation such as the example I pointed out which was streaming 1225 animes, many of which are FUNimation titles, and is still infringing and distributing Naruto, FMAB, Death Note, and many titles which FUNimation actually cares about.
I argue that FUNimation is ultimately responsible for the takedown and their trolling behavior is unjustified.
And I asked that you pass along the arguments fans have made to the people that make decisions about the series.
What I really want from FUNimation is to either do something (anything!) with Case Closed or leave it alone.
Fair enough. And yes there are still many illegal anime distribution sites out there, sadly no company alone can get them all. Infact most companies seem to not want to take the time & money to wipe them out, although bigger ones like say Disney, WB, or on the anime side TOEI, TMS etc, probably could. I think they realize that even if they did get rid of them all, more would just pop up in there place, seems illegal streaming & torrent sites are like Hydra's cut off one head, two more pop up in its place, lol... But i'm rambling so....
As for Funimations trolling, I would disagree abit. But yes Its true that companies should actually use the properties they own as long as they have the license to them. However as we all know this is a far from perfect world and many companies will just play the jerk and sit on their acquisitions (like Disney is doing with the broadcast rights to Naruto Shippuden soley to keep competitors like CN/AS & Nick from acquiring it even though they would probably treat it better, and not mandate VIZ to make as many edits to the televised broadcast, especially if it ended up on AS) But yeah, is it a bad time to be messing with Case Closed fan-sites when Funimation seemingly/ most likely has nothing more to do with the property, well yeah, it is. But hey, you never know, they announced movies 3-6 when no one was expecting them to release more Conan, so maybe we will be pleasantly surprised later this year, probably not, but hey yea never know.
I guess the only other thing I can say is that, well, you may have lost one site, but i'm sure another will pop up eventually, and there are, for better or worse, still sites to watch Conan on, although I obviously don't support or condone such actions, not much I can do from anyone else deciding to partake.
Overall I think the best thing Conan fans could hope for, and even this is a bit far fetched, would be to try to convince Funimaton to at least do a legal sub stream of Case Closed/Detective Conan, like they have done with TOEI series such as FOTNS & Slam Dunk in the past, even though they do not distribute either show.
I'm sure that in time if were civil about it, and can prove theres enough support there might be a chance Conan fans could convince Funimation to legally stream the series on their video player.
Again even thats a long shot, but overall it would be better then nothing, that is until there license for the series runs out and hopefully someone like Discotek or Nozomi that are actually pretty good at releasing and re-releasing older titles could get their hands on it. Infact Discotek Media is releasing the Lupin III TV series which as i'm sure you know is another TMS title, so who knows if it by some miracle it sells well for them, maybe fans could convince them to go after Conan as well.
So yeah, sorry your site got the axe, but remember, when it comes to the anime industry its all about patience, I know its a virtue in small supply these days, but hey, it can still pay off from time to time.
People getting mad at a company that has the legal rights to distribute a series closing down sites that distribute it illegally always make me lol.
I can fully understand the anger, but its overall just something that like everything else stems from modern mans undeserved since of entitlement. Just because the internet lets you have access to pretty much everything at the click of a button, doesn't mean you need or deserve it.
Funimaton had every right to shut down the site, just as they or any other company does for any other site that distributes media through illegal means.
As for how to get more Case Closed, READ THE MANGA, its Legally available in the U.S. from VIZ Media. And if thats still not good enough for you, well then just wait for Funi's license to expire and hope somebody else like D-tek, Nozomi, Sentai, etc picks it up and releases the rest sub-only.
But yeah, I understand the anger, but people need to realize how childish they are acting when they get mad at Funimation or any other company for taking down a site that really had no right to exist in the first place.
Modern Humans....oy vey.
I'm not angry because they took them down. I understand that and fully support them acting well within their legal rights.
What makes me angry, however, is that there are a decent number of fans who would love to give Funimation their money if they would provide a legal alternative--including streaming a subbed version or something. Funimation fumbled the series to begin with, dooming it from the start. And then Funimation refuse to give legal means of watching the series in a language we understand. Then Funimation close down the best means most of us had to enjoy and understand the series outside of what was released.
It's not childish to be angry with a company for essentially driving a series to suicide in your country because they took it on before it was an ideal time to be released, fumbled the entire thing, and then refused to give you a legal means to watch a series they taunted you with by giving you a taste then shutting it down. That is just poor handling of the entire matter. I understand there are financial reasons for it, and they couldn't have known that DC wasn't going to do well at the time (I think if they'd waited until more recently it would have had a better chance if they didn't fumble it). However, the way they have treated the fans is not able to be excused by the financial concerns. That's just terrible management of their fanbase.
I would be more than happy to pay a subscription or per movie/episode fee to watch it legally with subs--especially if they didn't Americanize it.
As for the manga argument... Some people prefer anime. I personally really enjoy the animation of the more recent movies and episodes, I really, really like it. I also admit to being rather fond of the Japanese voices (especially Haibara~). Others have other reasons or the same reasons. The manga is all well and good for those who enjoy the manga. But some people really just want to watch the series. I do plan to catch up with the manga myself (I had planned to use the summer to catch up on both the anime and the manga), as I enjoy both. But I really would have liked to see more of the series released here in animated form.
I do hope, though, that once the license runs out somebody else tries to save it. I will rage if they decided to renew it and just sit on it again.
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Renzokuken, do you know what FUNimation can do to make TMS really happy ¥_¥? Buying the rest of the Case Closed licences.
As one of the oldest and most influential animation studios TMS is more than capable of filing their own takedown request and as the original creators and actual copyright owner (rather than an affiliated licensee with copyright only to their own translation and dub), they are just as capable (if not more so) of doing their own dirty work. If TMS asked, FUNimation could have justified that the cost of their legal team's work would be more than the amount they're losing and shifted the burden back to TMS, etc, etc. Whether or not FUNimation was asked it was still their decision to act and so they are ultimately the target of the wrath of the fans.
I, too, am frustrated by this, but I understand why they would comply with the company instead of shifting the ball back to their court. They want to stay on their good side. Basically, kiss up to keep in their good graces so they might be able to get more things to license from them in the future. Though I wish TMS had just done it themselves...
I don't get why Funimation doesn't just recruite Detective Conan Translation Project. I mean, we all know Funimation isn't going to dub them, and subbing all the weekly episodes is too much even for them, but put all the responsibility on another party will take a load of Funimation's shoulders. They already own the rights to Case Closed (Detective Conan) so why not let them sub it. If funimation gives them permission it won't be fansubs, it'll be official...subs. I'm just sayin, because people don't want to look at Funimation as a monopoly that'll take down anyone who aren't working for them. Right?
It would not be the first time that official subs were based on fan subs the most recent example is CR's subs for ano natsu/ waiting in the summer. however DCTP did not sub all of conan and none of the episodes close to the 100's. also there are many episodes that the subs are not up to even the subbers qaulity.
HOWEVER apparently someone at funi said that an old classic series would be getting some love at otakon, can anyone think of a series that fits that description.
I would bet anything TMS Entertainment or YTC asked them to. Funimation may not care about Case Closed, but they sure as hell care about their relationship with the Japanese producers. TMS is one of the oldest and most influential animation studios in Japan, and they definitely care about what happens to Detective Conan.
Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you.
As long as you remember Her, you are not alone.
Renzokuken, do you know what FUNimation can do to make TMS really happy ¥_¥? Buying the rest of the Case Closed licences.
As one of the oldest and most influential animation studios TMS is more than capable of filing their own takedown request and as the original creators and actual copyright owner (rather than an affiliated licensee with copyright only to their own translation and dub), they are just as capable (if not more so) of doing their own dirty work. If TMS asked, FUNimation could have justified that the cost of their legal team's work would be more than the amount they're losing and shifted the burden back to TMS, etc, etc. Whether or not FUNimation was asked it was still their decision to act and so they are ultimately the target of the wrath of the fans.
DCTP was small fry compared to sites that are actually harming both FUNimation and TMS. Just type "watch anime" in any old search engine and you'll find plenty of them. One such site streams numerous FUNimation titles and gives rankings to the animes which are the most popular. Of the 1225 animes they are infringing on, Case Closed is ranked as the 9th most popular beating out Code Geass, Soul Eater, and Ouran. I tell you that Case Closed didn't get this popular from Adult Swim nor the 5 direct-to-DVD seasons FUNimation released ... and re-released. Those sites are the kinds of infringers FUNimation and TMS have more of a reason to be going after and not the fans that are just trying to revive a series which FUNimation has done their best to kill, twice, and given up on.
People getting mad at a company that has the legal rights to distribute a series closing down sites that distribute it illegally always make me lol.
I can fully understand the anger, but its overall just something that like everything else stems from modern mans undeserved since of entitlement. Just because the internet lets you have access to pretty much everything at the click of a button, doesn't mean you need or deserve it.
Funimaton had every right to shut down the site, just as they or any other company does for any other site that distributes media through illegal means.
As for how to get more Case Closed, READ THE MANGA, its Legally available in the U.S. from VIZ Media. And if thats still not good enough for you, well then just wait for Funi's license to expire and hope somebody else like D-tek, Nozomi, Sentai, etc picks it up and releases the rest sub-only.
But yeah, I understand the anger, but people need to realize how childish they are acting when they get mad at Funimation or any other company for taking down a site that really had no right to exist in the first place.
Modern Humans....oy vey.
All Will Know The Wonder Of My Dark & Jewled Sky, When All The World Is Wrapped In An Eternal Lullabye.
While I've given several different arguments against FUNimation's haneous act you've simply chosen to ignore them and bang the drum of illegality. I believe that is the only thing you can say; like a macaw that only knows the word "illegal". Are you so much of a Javert to even address my arguments? Who is the Neanderthal: the one who uses logic and reason, or the obtuse drum banger?
Rather than tell us customers that we don't need entrainment, to buy our anime from other companies, and to switch to reading manga; why don't you inform the people who actually make decisions about these things regarding the desires and arguments presented by the fans (hopefully you have the authority to do that or know someone who does). I'm also betting that FUNimation executives wouldn't appreciate their mods telling members not to buy FUNimation products since that is their bread and butter (because as you pointed out we don't need to buy their anime).
I'll appreciate how primitive your cave art is later.
@Sigerson: Now now, no need for name calling. First off
1. I don't work for Funimation, none (or I guess to be more accurate for uncertainties sake very few) Moderators do, we merely work the forums. The Admins are actual Funimation employees though.
2. I'm not telling you NOT to buy Funimation products, but whats the point in telling you to re-buy what little they did dub of Case Closed over & over hoping that will convince them to dub more. If fans want more the best legitimate way to do so is read the manga. Weather people decide to buy what Funimation releases or not is completely up to them, but yes just like any other member we mods have the right to voice our opinions about Funimation or anything else be they positive or negative.
3. Logic & Reason? Where is the logic & reason in theft or piracy be it physical or digital. Given there are extreme cases, like starving person X needs food item Y to survive, but were not talking about something like that, were talking about Funimation (possibly on behalf of TMS or such) in Japan shutting down a fan-site that had episodes of an anime that it had no right to be airing.
The fact is despite the original intent of fan-sub groups and pirates, there is no real legitimate reason to justify these groups actions, you can make arguments about how they are merely fans of the show, or they want to make it more well known, more well popular, etc. And thats all fine & dandy, but its not justification. See thats whats wrong with people these days, they get mad when they get something taken away from them they had no right to in the first place.
And again, I too am a HUGE Conan fan, I loved watching the show during its short stint on [Adult Swim] back in 04 (along with Lupin III) I bought all the season sets, all the movies, and all the manga volumes that have been released so far. So I can relate to your anger and dissatisfaction with Funimation's poor treatment of the series, I wish it had done better, I wish they were still dubbing it, or at the very least the rest of the movies and some of the OVAS/Specials. But you know what, sometimes we don't always get what we want. Its simple as that.
As for the web site Funimation closed down, i'm happy to know theres enough Conan fans out there to even make such a site, but again people really can't get mad when anime fan-sub/stream/torrent sites get shut-down because well, as said countless times, the companies despite what you may think about it, have the right to do so. Same goes for Manga-scanlations as well of course.
And on a final note,
A word to the wise, comparing someones intelligence to that of a caveman's nearly because you don't like/ disagree with what they are saying doesn't do much to help your stance.
All Will Know The Wonder Of My Dark & Jewled Sky, When All The World Is Wrapped In An Eternal Lullabye.
I only brought Neanderthal because of your implication that "Modern Humans" weren't acting like modern humans. Yes it was over the top exaggeration but I was making a point. I stand by the Javert comment though because there is a difference between illegal and immoral. Alcohol was also illegal.
I argue that the fansubbers in no way harmed FUNimation or their sales of Case Closed and if anything helped them. Case Closed has topped the charts of the Amazon Best Selling animes numerous times and it didn't get there from those who watched Adult Swim given the low ratings.
You'll argue that translating any anime is illegal while I'll argue that in this case it is fair use because it passes the four-factor balancing test (and guess what we're both right).
I argue that even if it wasn't fair use (which it is) their translation work is small fry compared to the people that are actually harming FUNimation such as the example I pointed out which was streaming 1225 animes, many of which are FUNimation titles, and is still infringing and distributing Naruto, FMAB, Death Note, and many titles which FUNimation actually cares about.
I argue that FUNimation is ultimately responsible for the takedown and their trolling behavior is unjustified.
And I asked that you pass along the arguments fans have made to the people that make decisions about the series.
What I really want from FUNimation is to either do something (anything!) with Case Closed or leave it alone.
Fair enough. And yes there are still many illegal anime distribution sites out there, sadly no company alone can get them all. Infact most companies seem to not want to take the time & money to wipe them out, although bigger ones like say Disney, WB, or on the anime side TOEI, TMS etc, probably could. I think they realize that even if they did get rid of them all, more would just pop up in there place, seems illegal streaming & torrent sites are like Hydra's cut off one head, two more pop up in its place, lol... But i'm rambling so....
As for Funimations trolling, I would disagree abit. But yes Its true that companies should actually use the properties they own as long as they have the license to them. However as we all know this is a far from perfect world and many companies will just play the jerk and sit on their acquisitions (like Disney is doing with the broadcast rights to Naruto Shippuden soley to keep competitors like CN/AS & Nick from acquiring it even though they would probably treat it better, and not mandate VIZ to make as many edits to the televised broadcast, especially if it ended up on AS) But yeah, is it a bad time to be messing with Case Closed fan-sites when Funimation seemingly/ most likely has nothing more to do with the property, well yeah, it is. But hey, you never know, they announced movies 3-6 when no one was expecting them to release more Conan, so maybe we will be pleasantly surprised later this year, probably not, but hey yea never know.
I guess the only other thing I can say is that, well, you may have lost one site, but i'm sure another will pop up eventually, and there are, for better or worse, still sites to watch Conan on, although I obviously don't support or condone such actions, not much I can do from anyone else deciding to partake.
Overall I think the best thing Conan fans could hope for, and even this is a bit far fetched, would be to try to convince Funimaton to at least do a legal sub stream of Case Closed/Detective Conan, like they have done with TOEI series such as FOTNS & Slam Dunk in the past, even though they do not distribute either show.
I'm sure that in time if were civil about it, and can prove theres enough support there might be a chance Conan fans could convince Funimation to legally stream the series on their video player.
Again even thats a long shot, but overall it would be better then nothing, that is until there license for the series runs out and hopefully someone like Discotek or Nozomi that are actually pretty good at releasing and re-releasing older titles could get their hands on it. Infact Discotek Media is releasing the Lupin III TV series which as i'm sure you know is another TMS title, so who knows if it by some miracle it sells well for them, maybe fans could convince them to go after Conan as well.
So yeah, sorry your site got the axe, but remember, when it comes to the anime industry its all about patience, I know its a virtue in small supply these days, but hey, it can still pay off from time to time.
All Will Know The Wonder Of My Dark & Jewled Sky, When All The World Is Wrapped In An Eternal Lullabye.
I can fully understand the anger, but its overall just something that like everything else stems from modern mans undeserved since of entitlement. Just because the internet lets you have access to pretty much everything at the click of a button, doesn't mean you need or deserve it.
Funimaton had every right to shut down the site, just as they or any other company does for any other site that distributes media through illegal means.
As for how to get more Case Closed, READ THE MANGA, its Legally available in the U.S. from VIZ Media. And if thats still not good enough for you, well then just wait for Funi's license to expire and hope somebody else like D-tek, Nozomi, Sentai, etc picks it up and releases the rest sub-only.
But yeah, I understand the anger, but people need to realize how childish they are acting when they get mad at Funimation or any other company for taking down a site that really had no right to exist in the first place.
Modern Humans....oy vey.
I'm not angry because they took them down. I understand that and fully support them acting well within their legal rights.
What makes me angry, however, is that there are a decent number of fans who would love to give Funimation their money if they would provide a legal alternative--including streaming a subbed version or something. Funimation fumbled the series to begin with, dooming it from the start. And then Funimation refuse to give legal means of watching the series in a language we understand. Then Funimation close down the best means most of us had to enjoy and understand the series outside of what was released.
It's not childish to be angry with a company for essentially driving a series to suicide in your country because they took it on before it was an ideal time to be released, fumbled the entire thing, and then refused to give you a legal means to watch a series they taunted you with by giving you a taste then shutting it down. That is just poor handling of the entire matter. I understand there are financial reasons for it, and they couldn't have known that DC wasn't going to do well at the time (I think if they'd waited until more recently it would have had a better chance if they didn't fumble it). However, the way they have treated the fans is not able to be excused by the financial concerns. That's just terrible management of their fanbase.
I would be more than happy to pay a subscription or per movie/episode fee to watch it legally with subs--especially if they didn't Americanize it.
As for the manga argument... Some people prefer anime. I personally really enjoy the animation of the more recent movies and episodes, I really, really like it. I also admit to being rather fond of the Japanese voices (especially Haibara~). Others have other reasons or the same reasons. The manga is all well and good for those who enjoy the manga. But some people really just want to watch the series. I do plan to catch up with the manga myself (I had planned to use the summer to catch up on both the anime and the manga), as I enjoy both. But I really would have liked to see more of the series released here in animated form.
I do hope, though, that once the license runs out somebody else tries to save it. I will rage if they decided to renew it and just sit on it again.
As one of the oldest and most influential animation studios TMS is more than capable of filing their own takedown request and as the original creators and actual copyright owner (rather than an affiliated licensee with copyright only to their own translation and dub), they are just as capable (if not more so) of doing their own dirty work. If TMS asked, FUNimation could have justified that the cost of their legal team's work would be more than the amount they're losing and shifted the burden back to TMS, etc, etc. Whether or not FUNimation was asked it was still their decision to act and so they are ultimately the target of the wrath of the fans.
I, too, am frustrated by this, but I understand why they would comply with the company instead of shifting the ball back to their court. They want to stay on their good side. Basically, kiss up to keep in their good graces so they might be able to get more things to license from them in the future. Though I wish TMS had just done it themselves...
I don't get why Funimation doesn't just recruite Detective Conan Translation Project. I mean, we all know Funimation isn't going to dub them, and subbing all the weekly episodes is too much even for them, but put all the responsibility on another party will take a load of Funimation's shoulders. They already own the rights to Case Closed (Detective Conan) so why not let them sub it. If funimation gives them permission it won't be fansubs, it'll be official...subs. I'm just sayin, because people don't want to look at Funimation as a monopoly that'll take down anyone who aren't working for them. Right?
It would not be the first time that official subs were based on fan subs the most recent example is CR's subs for ano natsu/ waiting in the summer. however DCTP did not sub all of conan and none of the episodes close to the 100's. also there are many episodes that the subs are not up to even the subbers qaulity.
HOWEVER apparently someone at funi said that an old classic series would be getting some love at otakon, can anyone think of a series that fits that description.
Tantei's FTW