Re: Funimation Sues A.D. Vision, Sentai, Others for US$8 Million
Ninja_Shinigami_Mage wrote:
Both are multi-genre varied. Though bias in preferred company does play a role in the double standard.
I'll admit that I dislike Sentai's rather boneheaded policy [IMO] to release most of its licenses sub-only....but I still acknowledge that it does acquire all kinds.
Regarding the topic, I have to agree with Batou. Some are jumping the sharks with the finger pointing and accusations of ulterior motives.
Let's wait till we actually get a full look at the situation before the conspiracy theories start.
Sentai's release preferences have nothing to little anything to do with this topic, let alone Funi's choice for ecchi titles. This is about the lawsuit between 2 companies over a ridiculous sum, NOT about who releases what, how, and why, and it's benefits.
Read all of the thread. Even with the small facts it's clear as crystal Funi is not doing this with any sort of good intentions, or fairness on their side. (The appeal for a jury court is obvious they're going to try, and rely on public opinion rather than a judge of law who will most likely tell Funi wrong.) I'm not going to shout conspiracy theories, but Funi's tried grip here on Sentai is out of greed, and obviously not the good guy outlook. THAT MUCH is certain.
Re: Funimation Sues A.D. Vision, Sentai, Others for US$8 Million
I won't lie, a lot of your info does have me re-thinking this some Sora, but one part still bugs me, greatly.
'Section23/Sentai will NOT be affected at all. AD Vision,Inc made sure these companies were clean of the legal mess of ADV Films & Sojitz.'
No matter what the legal crap says, Section 23 and Sentai WERE ADV. So if there's massive debts left behind that're owed to someone, it SHOULD be their job to pay them off, rather than letting someone else take that fall. Statute of limitations ans scrubbing clean be damned. It just makes logical sense even if it doesn't legally.
Then again, this wouldn't be the first time the law makes absolutely no sense in regards to what's right. ^_^;
Re: Funimation Sues A.D. Vision, Sentai, Others for US$8 Million
@Sora:...Yeah, I know. I was responding to SS5ant's comment.
And honestly, I still think the judgment [which is getting rather black and white....which I really don't think it is] is premature as well as a bit presumptuous.
Re: Funimation Sues A.D. Vision, Sentai, Others for US$8 Million
and I was just respomding to comments about all FUNi is doing is getting ecchi titles as if Sentai wasn't
One topic bottom line looks like FUNimarion is owed money by ADV. ADV technically doesn't exist anymore since they split up so I guess they won't get their money. The same types of legal loopholes allowed 4kids to keep Yu-Gi-Oh
Re: Funimation Sues A.D. Vision, Sentai, Others for US$8 Million
There sueing more companies other than just Sentai, but all others who made the split so im wondering just how strongly connected all those companies are because if they aren't strongly connected then even if they do have to pay the Money surely Sentai's share of that debt wouldnt be enough to put them out of buisness straight away if at all , cripple them for a year maybe. Honestly with the rate that Sentai has been licensing shows ,more licenses than everyone else combined in the last year isn't a complete exaggeration, then perhaps they could afford their share of the debt should it come to that without many issues at all. 8 less licenses would probaly cover a part of that share wouldnt it. I suppose though there is a difference between the money used to license shows and th emoney used to keep the buisness afloat.
I really dont understand alot of the inner workings of this buisness so go easy on me
Re: Funimation Sues A.D. Vision, Sentai, Others for US$8 Million
jlaking wrote:
Those other companies were parts of ADV in the past.
If the sale of ADV's assets was handled correctly by the attorneys when it was done, then the companies will not be found to have ever been part of ADV regardless of their having some of the same owners and possessing some of the same assets.
That's really the crux of this matter. If the legal advice that ADV got at the time was sound, then all this is just noise.
Re: Funimation Sues A.D. Vision, Sentai, Others for US$8 Million
Like you said this fiasco will cost quite a bit of money for all parties involved, regardless of who wins. With the economy in the state it's in now, this is something the anime industry as a whole just can't afford.
Re: Funimation Sues A.D. Vision, Sentai, Others for US$8 Million
This is not what I want to hear what Funimation is doing.
To Funimation: This is not a good time to start going after other anime companies for frivilous stuff. Bandai already stop releasing new titles, Media Blaster has lay off 60% of their worker, and now you want to start throwing lawsuit at other anime company. That is not acceptable and you'll get bad rep if you do this. Also the anime industry is not going off at a good start for the new year. Please don't make the US industry get worse by doing this.
Re: Funimation Sues A.D. Vision, Sentai, Others for US$8 Million
mdo7 wrote:
This is not what I want to hear what Funimation is doing.
To Funimation: This is not a good time to start going after other anime companies for frivilous stuff. Bandai already stop releasing new titles, Media Blaster has lay off 60% of their worker, and now you want to start throwing lawsuit at other anime company. That is not acceptable and you'll get bad rep if you do this. Also the anime industry is not going off at a good start for the new year. Please don't make the US industry get worse by doing this.
Do you have proof this is frivolous suit?
There would be no suit if ADV (and co.) were paying back their debt.
Also, the suit was filed last year before the bad stuff with Bandai and MB happened.
I'll admit that I dislike Sentai's rather boneheaded policy [IMO] to release most of its licenses sub-only....but I still acknowledge that it does acquire all kinds.
Regarding the topic, I have to agree with Batou. Some are jumping the sharks with the finger pointing and accusations of ulterior motives.
Let's wait till we actually get a full look at the situation before the conspiracy theories start.
Sentai's release preferences have nothing to little anything to do with this topic, let alone Funi's choice for ecchi titles. This is about the lawsuit between 2 companies over a ridiculous sum, NOT about who releases what, how, and why, and it's benefits.
Read all of the thread. Even with the small facts it's clear as crystal Funi is not doing this with any sort of good intentions, or fairness on their side. (The appeal for a jury court is obvious they're going to try, and rely on public opinion rather than a judge of law who will most likely tell Funi wrong.) I'm not going to shout conspiracy theories, but Funi's tried grip here on Sentai is out of greed, and obviously not the good guy outlook. THAT MUCH is certain.
I won't lie, a lot of your info does have me re-thinking this some Sora, but one part still bugs me, greatly.
'Section23/Sentai will NOT be affected at all. AD Vision,Inc made sure these companies were clean of the legal mess of ADV Films & Sojitz.'
No matter what the legal crap says, Section 23 and Sentai WERE ADV. So if there's massive debts left behind that're owed to someone, it SHOULD be their job to pay them off, rather than letting someone else take that fall. Statute of limitations ans scrubbing clean be damned. It just makes logical sense even if it doesn't legally.
Then again, this wouldn't be the first time the law makes absolutely no sense in regards to what's right. ^_^;
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@Sora:...Yeah, I know. I was responding to SS5ant's comment.
And honestly, I still think the judgment [which is getting rather black and white....which I really don't think it is] is premature as well as a bit presumptuous.
..If you don't think so, more power to you.
@Gyt Kaliba: Ain't it the truth?
and I was just respomding to comments about all FUNi is doing is getting ecchi titles as if Sentai wasn't
One topic bottom line looks like FUNimarion is owed money by ADV. ADV technically doesn't exist anymore since they split up so I guess they won't get their money. The same types of legal loopholes allowed 4kids to keep Yu-Gi-Oh
There sueing more companies other than just Sentai, but all others who made the split so im wondering just how strongly connected all those companies are because if they aren't strongly connected then even if they do have to pay the Money surely Sentai's share of that debt wouldnt be enough to put them out of buisness straight away if at all , cripple them for a year maybe. Honestly with the rate that Sentai has been licensing shows ,more licenses than everyone else combined in the last year isn't a complete exaggeration, then perhaps they could afford their share of the debt should it come to that without many issues at all. 8 less licenses would probaly cover a part of that share wouldnt it. I suppose though there is a difference between the money used to license shows and th emoney used to keep the buisness afloat.
I really dont understand alot of the inner workings of this buisness so go easy on me
Those other companies were parts of ADV in the past.
If the sale of ADV's assets was handled correctly by the attorneys when it was done, then the companies will not be found to have ever been part of ADV regardless of their having some of the same owners and possessing some of the same assets.
That's really the crux of this matter. If the legal advice that ADV got at the time was sound, then all this is just noise.
Sadly it will still cost $ to find out.
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Like you said this fiasco will cost quite a bit of money for all parties involved, regardless of who wins. With the economy in the state it's in now, this is something the anime industry as a whole just can't afford.
This is not what I want to hear what Funimation is doing.
To Funimation: This is not a good time to start going after other anime companies for frivilous stuff. Bandai already stop releasing new titles, Media Blaster has lay off 60% of their worker, and now you want to start throwing lawsuit at other anime company. That is not acceptable and you'll get bad rep if you do this. Also the anime industry is not going off at a good start for the new year. Please don't make the US industry get worse by doing this.
Do you have proof this is frivolous suit?
There would be no suit if ADV (and co.) were paying back their debt.
Also, the suit was filed last year before the bad stuff with Bandai and MB happened.