Well on the bright side, one of the WORST U.S. Manga Publisheres is now out of the way, on the downside abunch of titles are in Limbo till companies like Yen Press, Koda USA, etc save em.
You know, maybe if TP had'nt had such Poor mangement and actually FINISHED their manga, then maybe they would have survived. Oh well no real loss here, I'm sure the good TP employees will find work elsewhere and the more popular titles will be picked up by other publishers eventually.
So yeah overall YAY for TP going bye bye, BOO to people losing jobs & manga being stuck in limbo.
Man, to have them go under, is just shocking. Sure they weren't that good because they would drop series fast, flop manga and never adopted the "Never flop again" format, and other things. They have so many titles, and it's going to take a decade to rescue them all.
To tell the truth I never was one to like Tokyopop. After the Initial D debacle I stopped buying from them, but this is a big loss.
If I recall correctly, I think I seen you say that in the ANN (AnimeNewsNetwork) Forums.
Anyways, I, personally, am not effected at all by this news. It's depressing that a company that have been releasing manga in America for 15yrs (correct me if I'm wrong) is closing down. But, the thing is, I never bought anything for them before. All my manga that I own is from Viz (Astro Boy vol. 1 is the only manga that I have that is from a different publisher -- Dark Horse).
It's a lot of weight to hope that my favourites (Dark Horse and Yen Press) save everything but those are my exact hopes...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Tokyopop still own the licenses? They just shut down their North American offices. I don't think that means they let go of their licenses. If I'm right, we'll never see manga such as Maria+Holic again, unless Tokyopop decides to play nice.
I really doubt Tokyopop will play nice though. They just bent everyone over with this move. I'm pretty furious. Tokyopop wasn't my favourite company, but they had some manga I collected. This move to just shut up shop is a kick in the nuts. This type of move is why no one wants to support the American community. Companies don't see things through. They cancel series on whims and now even close up on whims.
Why should I continue to buy anime and manga if all I end up with is incomplete collections? This is just brutal and has me seriously questioning the amount of money I put into anime and manga.
This came a no real suprise actually. Between layoffs and droped titles, it was just a matter of time. Unfortunet since I was kinda hoping they would pick some of the titles they droped.
Alamarco- it depends on their contracts, how long their terms were for, what the terms for publishing were, the specifics of reversion- which probably varied depending on the publisher and the manga artist involved [as the manga artist is the one who generally had those rights, unless they were working on a licensed title like say a Gundam book]
So there's probably a lot of licenses that could remain in limbo, unless their publishers had it in the contract that should TPop implode those rights go back to them. Kodansha took back their titles a few years ago, and then there's stuff that expired like most of their CLAMP licenses, which went back into CLAMP's own hands [as these were older titles that whose rights now were with them in Japan] so that they could arrange a deal themselves with Dark Horse to issue new editions [that super pretty CLOVER omnibus? CLAMP provided Dark Horse with brand-new shiny masters to work from from their records from what I recall].
Another thing- Titles coming back really depends on sales history- if it was a big title for Tpop that kept itself in print and kept selling longterm or had a major following currently and it's rights are avaiable, you just might see it rescued- out of ADV's stable, Yotsuba& got rescued by Yen Press thanks to their partnership with it's japanese publisher Kadokawa, while SevenSeas snuck in a rescue of Gunslinger Girl
When CMX collapsed, there were titles they hadn't released and titles that hadn't even ANNOUNCED that remained locked away until the right occasion worked itself out- VIZ's new edition of Tengo Tenge is the first horst out that stable, and it's been about year since CMX shut down. TT, Gunslinger Girl, CLAMP's back catalogue and Yotsuba were all consistent selles, so I imagine poorer sellers in TP's catalogue will be doomed- their manwha, stuff like ARIA that had already been cancelled bebfore by ADVmanga or anythingelse whose copies sold in the hundreds are probably things you should go and get the TPop edition for ASAP, as it's likely they'll go OOP and never have another shot [just look at CMX's Swan- get while the getting's good]
Ugh, so sad about all this 0_o Here's hoping manga fans stick together, and support other pubs like Yen, VIZ, Vertical, Udon and others until the whole bookstore market sorts itself out.
It's not a terribly surprising announcement but I feel bad for people who were still buying series from them. I eradicated my Tokyopop titles months ago as I felt they would not finish them. Good to see I made a good call.
Well on the bright side, one of the WORST U.S. Manga Publisheres is now out of the way, on the downside abunch of titles are in Limbo till companies like Yen Press, Koda USA, etc save em.
You know, maybe if TP had'nt had such Poor mangement and actually FINISHED their manga, then maybe they would have survived. Oh well no real loss here, I'm sure the good TP employees will find work elsewhere and the more popular titles will be picked up by other publishers eventually.
So yeah overall YAY for TP going bye bye, BOO to people losing jobs & manga being stuck in limbo.
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Man, to have them go under, is just shocking. Sure they weren't that good because they would drop series fast, flop manga and never adopted the "Never flop again" format, and other things. They have so many titles, and it's going to take a decade to rescue them all.
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If I recall correctly, I think I seen you say that in the ANN (AnimeNewsNetwork) Forums.
Anyways, I, personally, am not effected at all by this news. It's depressing that a company that have been releasing manga in America for 15yrs (correct me if I'm wrong) is closing down. But, the thing is, I never bought anything for them before. All my manga that I own is from Viz (Astro Boy vol. 1 is the only manga that I have that is from a different publisher -- Dark Horse).
...So what will happen to my beloved Sgt. Frog? (Even though I only read up to 16)
It's a lot of weight to hope that my favourites (Dark Horse and Yen Press) save everything but those are my exact hopes...
"Now I know you might not get these crazy ideas, but I do not like having distractions like that when I am enjoying a good murder. " - Eduardo M. Chavez
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Tokyopop still own the licenses? They just shut down their North American offices. I don't think that means they let go of their licenses. If I'm right, we'll never see manga such as Maria+Holic again, unless Tokyopop decides to play nice.
I really doubt Tokyopop will play nice though. They just bent everyone over with this move. I'm pretty furious. Tokyopop wasn't my favourite company, but they had some manga I collected. This move to just shut up shop is a kick in the nuts. This type of move is why no one wants to support the American community. Companies don't see things through. They cancel series on whims and now even close up on whims.
Why should I continue to buy anime and manga if all I end up with is incomplete collections? This is just brutal and has me seriously questioning the amount of money I put into anime and manga.
TokyoPop always seemed like a manga chop-shop to me, and while I'm not too happy people will be losing jobs, I'm okay with TokyoPop closing.
This came a no real suprise actually. Between layoffs and droped titles, it was just a matter of time. Unfortunet since I was kinda hoping they would pick some of the titles they droped.
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Alamarco- it depends on their contracts, how long their terms were for, what the terms for publishing were, the specifics of reversion- which probably varied depending on the publisher and the manga artist involved [as the manga artist is the one who generally had those rights, unless they were working on a licensed title like say a Gundam book]
So there's probably a lot of licenses that could remain in limbo, unless their publishers had it in the contract that should TPop implode those rights go back to them. Kodansha took back their titles a few years ago, and then there's stuff that expired like most of their CLAMP licenses, which went back into CLAMP's own hands [as these were older titles that whose rights now were with them in Japan] so that they could arrange a deal themselves with Dark Horse to issue new editions [that super pretty CLOVER omnibus? CLAMP provided Dark Horse with brand-new shiny masters to work from from their records from what I recall].
Another thing- Titles coming back really depends on sales history- if it was a big title for Tpop that kept itself in print and kept selling longterm or had a major following currently and it's rights are avaiable, you just might see it rescued- out of ADV's stable, Yotsuba& got rescued by Yen Press thanks to their partnership with it's japanese publisher Kadokawa, while SevenSeas snuck in a rescue of Gunslinger Girl
When CMX collapsed, there were titles they hadn't released and titles that hadn't even ANNOUNCED that remained locked away until the right occasion worked itself out- VIZ's new edition of Tengo Tenge is the first horst out that stable, and it's been about year since CMX shut down. TT, Gunslinger Girl, CLAMP's back catalogue and Yotsuba were all consistent selles, so I imagine poorer sellers in TP's catalogue will be doomed- their manwha, stuff like ARIA that had already been cancelled bebfore by ADVmanga or anythingelse whose copies sold in the hundreds are probably things you should go and get the TPop edition for ASAP, as it's likely they'll go OOP and never have another shot [just look at CMX's Swan- get while the getting's good]
Ugh, so sad about all this 0_o Here's hoping manga fans stick together, and support other pubs like Yen, VIZ, Vertical, Udon and others until the whole bookstore market sorts itself out.
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It's not a terribly surprising announcement but I feel bad for people who were still buying series from them. I eradicated my Tokyopop titles months ago as I felt they would not finish them. Good to see I made a good call.